Tractor Sizing ct 225 or ct 230?

/ ct 225 or ct 230? #21  
I have no power problems with my CT230. I have spun out and dug many holes with the tires. I've lifted stuff that amazed me. I've pulled a hydro service truck out of the ditch with wet slushy snow on the ground.

I have spun out in soft ground and gravel....and maybe they turned the pressure relief valve up on some later models. A lot of us early customers were having problems with the valves popping really early. Lifting is a function of the loader and has nothing to do with the hydro tranny. I will say mine had the sloppiest bucket I have ever had. The service manager even noticed that yo could wiggle it back and forth about 2". He didn't fix it but he noticed.

All I am saying is you lose a lot of HP with a hydro, I will never have an hydro tractor of this size without having at least 35 HP in the future.
 
/ ct 225 or ct 230? #22  
CT225 is fine if all you're doing is using the loader or MMM. (Although in my opinion too heavy for a finishing mower.)
The minute you decide you want to put any other PTO or hydraulic driven equipment on it, especially a backhoe, you're going to want a 30 or 35 hp engine in it.
 
/ ct 225 or ct 230? #23  
If u consider a kioti, u can get the any of these in gear. I have the ck25 gear. It's a beast. I stayed away from hydro too because I didn't want to spend the money to go hydro and up the hp. The 25/27 are too heavy for HST. The 35 is the only one I'd want with HST.
 
/ ct 225 or ct 230? #24  
If u consider a kioti, u can get the any of these in gear. I have the ck25 gear. It's a beast. I stayed away from hydro too because I didn't want to spend the money to go hydro and up the hp. The 25/27 are too heavy for HST. The 35 is the only one I'd want with HST.

the problem with Kioti (at least in my area) is that the dealers are few and far between, and they tend to come and go, or rather here today and gone tomorrow

:confused2:
 
/ ct 225 or ct 230? #25  
the problem with Kioti (at least in my area) is that the dealers are few and far between, and they tend to come and go, or rather here today and gone tomorrow

:confused2:

May be true in your area. But, this is addressed to the OP. Don't know how it might be in his area. I have two that are each about 30 minutes away. Didn't matter I bought from dealer 250 miles away!

Dealer proximity is over rated anyway. How many times does one need to go there? I'm less than a mile from my JD dealershp. My JD has been there one time in 18+ years. My Kioti has never been to any dealer, now in year 6. My Kioti dealer did come to me twice to do warranty work, and yes he came 250 miles to me.
 
/ ct 225 or ct 230? #26  
May be true in your area. But, this is addressed to the OP. Don't know how it might be in his area. I have two that are each about 30 minutes away. Didn't matter I bought from dealer 250 miles away!

Dealer proximity is over rated anyway. How many times does one need to go there? I'm less than a mile from my JD dealershp. My JD has been there one time in 18+ years. My Kioti has never been to any dealer, now in year 6. My Kioti dealer did come to me twice to do warranty work, and yes he came 250 miles to me.


I think most people have a differing opinion
 
/ ct 225 or ct 230? #27  
I think there is a happy medium on the dealer distance.

My dealer is about 60 miles away. I do have one now in town only a couple of miles away but I only go there for filters. They are an ATV dealer that brought in Bobcat tractors after a larger AG dealer in town rejected the BC dealership offer. I don't trust them for mechanical work.

Now on that other theory...I agree that the machine probably won't go there. Mine hasn't (knock on wood). Is XXX miles too far to drive for maybe once or twice in its life?

There is a happy medium and that decision rests with the buyer.
 
/ ct 225 or ct 230? #28  
I think most people have a differing opinion

Most still don't take their tractor to a dealer more than once or twice while owning it. That should not be ignored. But, as you say, most don't give this much weight - Dealer must be close! That absolute requirement is just silly in modern society. Maintenance parts come to your door without having to drive anywhere. Mountains of information available fast and free via the internet. Unless you are unlucky and get a lemon or simply don't do your own maintenance, your tractor never sees a dealer.

Well, for sure I'm not like most people. I generally find better values and get more done for less without sacrificing quality either in purchases or results there from. Many people won't go to the bother that I do to squeeze out value. They'd rather pay more, sacrifice on performance to stay in budget, and or pick a local dealer even if not the best. Not me, I saved thousands by not letting the "dealer must be close" barrier get in the way. The quality of the dealer certainly played into my decision. The dealer I chose has stepped up for me with the mfr. Not so sure the close-by dealers would have done that. I think that makes me pretty smart: saved money, got a tractor well suited to my needs, and got excellent service. The icing on the cake is that I have yet to have driven even one mile for any of this, not even for maintenance parts.

I certainly wasn't going to change colors simply to pick a dealer that was close. I like my JD dealer. But, I wasn't going to give $5000 more for less tractor no matter how much I like green. Similar difference for all the other dealers that were close to me. And the close dealers that sold the brand I bought were not only much higher priced, but I got the sense they were less accomodating to customer's after the purchase.
 
/ ct 225 or ct 230? #29  
Most still don't take their tractor to a dealer more than once or twice while owning it. That should not be ignored. But, as you say, most don't give this much weight - Dealer must be close! That absolute requirement is just silly in modern society. Maintenance parts come to your door without having to drive anywhere. Mountains of information available fast and free via the internet. Unless you are unlucky and get a lemon or simply don't do your own maintenance, your tractor never sees a dealer.

Well, for sure I'm not like most people. I generally find better values and get more done for less without sacrificing quality either in purchases or results there from. Many people won't go to the bother that I do to squeeze out value. They'd rather pay more, sacrifice on performance to stay in budget, and or pick a local dealer even if not the best. Not me, I saved thousands by not letting the "dealer must be close" barrier get in the way. The quality of the dealer certainly played into my decision. The dealer I chose has stepped up for me with the mfr. Not so sure the close-by dealers would have done that. I think that makes me pretty smart: saved money, got a tractor well suited to my needs, and got excellent service. The icing on the cake is that I have yet to have driven even one mile for any of this, not even for maintenance parts.

I certainly wasn't going to change colors simply to pick a dealer that was close. I like my JD dealer. But, I wasn't going to give $5000 more for less tractor no matter how much I like green. Similar difference for all the other dealers that were close to me. And the close dealers that sold the brand I bought were not only much higher priced, but I got the sense they were less accomodating to customer's after the purchase.

To each their own
 
/ ct 225 or ct 230? #30  
I was going to buy the CT335 and ended up getting a CT450. I would say get the 230 or bigger
 
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#31  
We don't have any Kioti dealers anywhere close to where I live, the only dealer in town is a John Deere dealer, they have nice tractors but the price of them puts them out of my range. The kubota and Bobcat dealer is 32 miles away in another town. I just got a price on a 2011 carryover CT235 with one remote, bobtach bucket, ind. tires, and a block heater for 18,000 before tax. They sold the 230 I got a price on earlier. They are going up some more this year I understand. Thanks for all your replies, I appreciate them.
 
/ ct 225 or ct 230? #32  
I paid $18,400 (incl taxes) in Canada for my 2009 CT230 with free FEL program, R4 tires, no remotes, deluxe suspension seat, block heater, slow moving vehicle sign, bob-tach and a full tank of fuel.

32 miles to drive is nothing. Go for it. You'll love it. Don't waste any more seat time...

You could drive the tractor 32 miles in 2.5 hrs!
 
/ ct 225 or ct 230? #33  
I bought my CT235 from dealer that is 80 miles away and paid $17,300 delivered to my door last year and included bobtach w/68 inch bucket, 2 sets of rear remotes, deluxe seat, block heater & AG tires. Dealer came out to my place to pick up tractor in September last year for 50 hour maintenance and then brought back when they were done, so I don't have any issues with my dealer. Charged me $90 for service call to pick up and deliver and well worth it to me as I am a newb to tractors and didn't want to mess anything up. Also, they just came out last weekend to my place to do warranty work - replaced the block heater as it stopped working this winter and it was covered by warranty so I didn't have to pay anything. You should go for it before the prices go up! :thumbsup:
 
/ ct 225 or ct 230?
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#34  
tonydn6, sounds like you got a good deal and a good dealer, can't beat that! awsome!!
 
/ ct 225 or ct 230? #35  
I have a CT230, love the tractor but have met its limits almost every time I use it. Does it do what I need it to? yes Would I like a bigger tractor? yes/no

Right now this tractor fits my truck and trailer capacity. I am able to move it around town to play/work where ever I like. It does eventually do all I need it to do, just have to take smaller bites sometimes. It would be interesting to see how much more power the CT235 has compared to the CT230.


All and all I am happy with the tractor if the price was not a thousand more for the CT235 I might have gotten the 235.
 
/ ct 225 or ct 230? #36  
Hi All, I am a new member to this forum although I am a long time lurker. After several years of of renting tractors my bride gave me the green light to buy a new one. There was no question it would be a Bobcat. We have a great dealer here that gave me a price that was $1000 cheaper than anywhere else. I had been renting his 230 as of late and have been loving it. I didn't real notice any difference between that and the 235 but there was a definite marked improvement of the 230 over the 225
 
/ ct 225 or ct 230? #37  
Hi All, I am a new member to this forum although I am a long time lurker. After several years of of renting tractors my bride gave me the green light to buy a new one. There was no question it would be a Bobcat. We have a great dealer here that gave me a price that was $1000 cheaper than anywhere else. I had been renting his 230 as of late and have been loving it. I didn't real notice any difference between that and the 235 but there was a definite marked improvement of the 230 over the 225

If you have hills and or are going to use PTO implements a lot, then I would be thinking about getting the 235 really hard. Other than that, get the 230. Most people that have the 225 get by, but would prefer to have at least the 230. There actually is a bigger difference in hp between the 235(34hp) & 230 (30hp) than the 230 (30hp) & 225 (27hp).

Good luck with whatever you choose. ;)
 
/ ct 225 or ct 230? #38  
I'll say my CK30 HST is marginal for power. I'd prefer the CK35, but for the extra money, I'd go for the DK40 instead. So, either the CT230 or the CT340 is my vote, it's always just about money, but you only have to buy a tractor once very 20 years, so get the one you really want, at least that's the lesson I learned.
 

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