L3400 3-point hitch adjustment

[sadie72]

Adjusted 3ph does not move implement at all with rapid throttle movement. Started at 2 inches off ground and at idle, then full throttle....no change at the business end. Pretty happy at this point. The implement did settle that one inch after the tractor was shut off, hmmmm?

I'm going to settle with this for now. If other problems develop during the warranty period I'll bring it back. I'll certainly continue to hound my dealer for the specifics on the adjustment.

If it wasn't for Sean's work, I probably wouldn't have pressed my dealer, and Kubota, so hard to try something. Thanks Sean.

 

[LD1]

Adjusted 3ph does not move implement at all with rapid throttle movement. Started at 2 inches off ground and at idle, then full throttle....no change at the business end. Pretty happy at this point. The implement did settle that one inch after the tractor was shut off, hmmmm?

I'm going to settle with this for now. If other problems develop during the warranty period I'll bring it back. I'll certainly continue to hound my dealer for the specifics on the adjustment.

If it wasn't for Sean's work, I probably wouldn't have pressed my dealer, and Kubota, so hard to try something. Thanks Sean.

You may have the valve type even newer than Seans. Who knows??

 

[Chilly807]

Adjusted 3ph does not move implement at all with rapid throttle movement. Started at 2 inches off ground and at idle, then full throttle....no change at the business end. Pretty happy at this point. The implement did settle that one inch after the tractor was shut off, hmmmm?

I'm going to settle with this for now. If other problems develop during the warranty period I'll bring it back. I'll certainly continue to hound my dealer for the specifics on the adjustment.

If it wasn't for Sean's work, I probably wouldn't have pressed my dealer, and Kubota, so hard to try something. Thanks Sean.

You're quite welcome, I couldn't start a job like this without talking about it, it's like an unbearable itch and the only way to scratch it is to tell people..

I'm glad you're happy with the results, it's an annoying problem that we shouldn't have to endure.

Did you by any chance try using the loader with the implement on the hitch? Mine was the worst under those conditions, particularly if the relief valve opened while using the loader or rear remote valve.

Sean

 

[Chilly807]

You may have the valve type even newer than Seans. Who knows??

There's a good chance he does, according to my serial number it should have a YR908-00102 valve.

Sean

 

[oneillmj]

Sean and LD1. Thanks so much for all your efforts trying to fix this problem. You probably saved us a ton of hard earned money and aggravation. I will steer away from purchasing an Economy series Kubota now since this problem seems insoluable in spite of your best efforts.

Chilly (Sean), you had mentioned you were going to try Jeff's Homebrew Solution this winter. Do you think you might still give that a shot or are you over it at this point? If that solution passed your or LD1's muster, maybe I'd still give the L series a shot.

There's only one small Kioti dealer around here or I'd be more keen on them as second choice, and the equivalent JD models seemed to have FELs that didn't seem to detach much less be quick attached. I really don't feel like being gouged for thousands for features of the Grand L's I neither want nor need, just to get a decent 3 point hitch valve. Anyway, Thanks again. Your efforts were worth a lot to me and I'm sure everyone else who followed this saga. It's back to the tractor purchase drawing board.

Mike

 

[teg]

....I will steer away from purchasing an Economy series Kubota now since this problem seems insoluble in spite of your best efforts...

Mike, if you have not bought the tractor and it's sitting on the dealer's lot, that's the easiest way to get a jerky hitch fixed, if it has one.

Bottom line try it before you buy it... if it's jerky, walk away from the dealer and tell him you'll only buy one that works smoothly. If you have already paid for it, you are at their mercy.

 

[LD1]

Mike, if you have not bought the tractor and it's sitting on the dealer's lot, that's the easiest way to get a jerky hitch fixed, if it has one.

Bottom line try it before you buy it... if it's jerky, walk away from the dealer and tell him you'll only buy one that works smoothly. If you have already paid for it, you are at their mercy.

Agreed:thumbsup:

Dont shy away from the L3200/L3800 just because of this.

As several members here have attested, The "NEWEST" style of valve seems to be able to be adjsuted without andy side-effects.

But like TEG said, Test it out and get the dealer to fix it before you sign papers.:thumbsup:

 

[Chilly807]

Sean and LD1. Thanks so much for all your efforts trying to fix this problem. You probably saved us a ton of hard earned money and aggravation. I will steer away from purchasing an Economy series Kubota now since this problem seems insoluable in spite of your best efforts.

Chilly (Sean), you had mentioned you were going to try Jeff's Homebrew Solution this winter. Do you think you might still give that a shot or are you over it at this point? If that solution passed your or LD1's muster, maybe I'd still give the L series a shot.

There's only one small Kioti dealer around here or I'd be more keen on them as second choice, and the equivalent JD models seemed to have FELs that didn't seem to detach much less be quick attached. I really don't feel like being gouged for thousands for features of the Grand L's I neither want nor need, just to get a decent 3 point hitch valve. Anyway, Thanks again. Your efforts were worth a lot to me and I'm sure everyone else who followed this saga. It's back to the tractor purchase drawing board.

Mike

Mike,

I'd have mixed feelings too about buying a new economy L at this point. They are a very good compact tractor with the exception of the hitch. I have no issues with keeping the one I already have, what's done is done and the hitch is certainly still usable, just not as good as the competition.

Teg makes a good point about being sure that it's working the way you expect it to before you buy. Even if the dealer was 100% committed to fixing it after you bought it, they can only do so much.

Only sadie72 has noticed that their's settles on shutdown after the dealer worked on it, either the other ones don't or they haven't noticed it. I could live with that but I didn't like it jumping around when I was using the loader or remote. There's also my concern over the hydraulics always "working" to support the load after it's been lifted to a given point. That's a new L3800, so it should have the newest valve available already installed.

I may go the home-brew route in time, it's not bad enough that I want to start adding valves just yet. I guess I've burned off my ambition to fix this, and now I'll tolerate it for a while before tackling it again.

Sean

 

[oneillmj]

Appreciate your input Sean, LD1 and Teg. I'll have to think on this one. A tractor is a big one time purchase for us before we go on a fixed retirement income. I'll check with the dealers and see if they can, like Teg suggests, provide a perfectly functioning model to a new buyer.

To be honest I get mad that you have had to go to such extreme lengths to try and repair a problem like this when you paid so much for the tractor in the first place. Its not right a consumer should have to teach themselves to be a mechanic with the skills Sean and LD1 have, to try and fix an issue that Kubota is responsible for, not the purchaser. (And I do admire your mechanical skills LDI and Sean.)

Kubota needs to be called to task for their "screw you attitude". Maybe the way that GM, Ford, and Chrysler were schooled back in the day when they lost so much market share to Toyota, Honda and Volkswagen, due to their crappy products and unresponsiveness to consumers. These big corporations give me a pain in the ***. I guess I'm still a product of the sixties, even though most of that angst is long since spent.

I wonder if Jeff's Homebrew Solution is working out for him. That would have to be the fall back position if I did find a perfectly working L3800 or L3400 and any problem did surface over time with the hitch. I'm going to look at a Kioti DK35SE HST in the meantime on this Presidents' Day holiday weekend. Or I could look at Jokergerm's perfectly functioning model now that he's selling it, except he lives near Seattle 3000 miles away.

Mike

 

[GILLYS CHILLI FARM AUSTRA]

does anyone have a BACK HOE and advise how they performing with the KUBOTA?

DOES IT DO THE WORK EASILY...ANY ISSIES WITH OPERATING IT OR ANY MAJOR PROBLEMS?