Yanmar Air Filter Elements

[California]

FWIW. Some air filter elements for YM240/YM2000 and similar.

Back row from left:
Yanmar #124295-12560. 4.5" ID, 7.5" OD.
Yanmar-USA shipped this larger element (7.5 inch) when 'element for YM240' was requested.

Yanmar #124450-12510 (the # in YM240 Parts Manual). 4.5" ID, 7" OD.
NOS filter I found on Ebay.

NAPA #2297. 5.5" ID, 7" OD.

Front row:
AC #A127C, a replica of the Yanmar 124450-12510 behind it.
Found this on my YM240 in 2003.

All the filters except NAPA are 2 3/8 inches tall. The NAPA is more than 1/8 inch taller. The enclosure lid wouldn't seal so I took it back. (Also - this photo shows the NAPA filter has less surface area).

 

[YannyMan]

The NAPA filter for the YM146 is a drop in replacement. Fits nice.

 

[Kays Supply]

My records show a NAPA 6022. It is 2.25 tall and 7.44OD. It will pass 170cfm. The 2297 will only pass 25 cfm.

 

[clemsonfor]

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FWIW. Some air filter elements for YM240/YM2000 and similar.

Back row from left:
Yanmar #124295-12560. 4.5" ID, 7.5" OD.
Yanmar-USA shipped this larger element (7.5 inch) when 'element for YM240' was requested.

Yanmar #124450-12510 (the # in YM240 Parts Manual). 4.5" ID, 7" OD.
NOS filter I found on Ebay.

NAPA #2297. 5.5" ID, 7" OD.

Front row:
AC #A127C, a replica of the Yanmar 124450-12510 behind it.
Found this on my YM240 in 2003.

All the filters except NAPA are 2 3/8 inches tall. The NAPA is more than 1/8 inch taller. The enclosure lid wouldn't seal so I took it back. (Also - this photo shows the NAPA filter has less surface area).

Question here, if the lid dosent sit all the way down cause the element is taller thats not where dirt would get sucked in, that just means it wont pull through the intake hose but from the outside air right?

The AC filter fits? I was thinking that the only one that fit were yanmar?

 

[clemsonfor]

Now heres a question on the pic you posted on the other thread about your filter element. I knew you could blow it out, but i heard that you could wash it, this just says to blow it? I have just blown mine out. I was thinking that at 10 hours it said to blow dust out of the filter.

 

[California]

My records show a NAPA 6022. It is 2.25 tall and 7.44OD. It will pass 170cfm. The 2297 will only pass 25 cfm.

That air capacity sounds better but if it is 1/8" less tall than an OEM filter then I would expect dust to bypass between the filter and the lid. Wayne (LMTC) and I think Aaron said they discovered short, non sealing air filter elements in engines that needed rings far too early.

I'm no authority on this stuff, I'm just sharing what I have read, mostly here. That low volume too tall NAPA element in my photo was one I saw recommended in this forum so I bought it. When I compared it with these other filters (and took this photo), I concluded it wasn't suitable.

if the lid dosent sit all the way down cause the element is taller thats not where dirt would get sucked in, that just means it wont pull through the intake hose but from the outside air right?

True, but as noted over in the other thread the filter enclosure already loads up fast with debris when pulling from in front of the radiator. I think pulling from behind the fan (through that gap) would gather even more debris and plug the element even faster.

The AC filter fits?

I think at one time AC made this correct element, but abandoned production long ago. Its dimensions are identical to OEM.

Now heres a question on the pic you posted on the other thread about your filter element. I knew you could blow it out, but i heard that you could wash it, this just says to blow it? I have just blown mine out. I was thinking that at 10 hours it said to blow dust out of the filter.

I don't know the answer - I'm just sharing my observations.

 

[California]

The NAPA filter for the YM146 is a drop in replacement. Fits nice.

What does it look like?

 

[Kays Supply]

I used the 6022 for several years. I just made a gasket to take up the minor height difference. Yes, I have washed out Yanmar OEM filters many times. Soap and water, air dry. I also have made foam socks to go over some of the filters and sprayed filter oil on them. That really extends the life.

 

[California]

Another photo of the old-stock Yanmar 7 inch element originally specified for YM240/YM2000, and Yanmar's modern 7.5" diameter filter element.



The filter paper on the old style has a strange texture like it was sprayed with concrete. I don't think it is the washable element however, because it isn't heavier than the modern filter like Mark described.

I wonder how old that box is, since it is from before their red trademark color. Maybe 1970's?

I got two of the NOS elements on Ebay for almost nothing. I presently use the YM240 mostly for backhoe work so it is taking a long time to see any soiling on the filter element. The one in the photo is unused.

The current model element, upper element in the photo, is used, washed, set aside for backup so that's not its original color. I think it was tan.

 

[California]

I used the 6022 for several years. I just made a gasket to take up the minor height difference. Yes, I have washed out Yanmar OEM filters many times. Soap and water, air dry. I also have made foam socks to go over some of the filters and sprayed filter oil on them. That really extends the life.

I like the foam sock idea. My old Jeep Wagoneer came with a factory foam ring around an element like these. The foam loaded up quickly when running dirt roads and it was simple to shake or blow out.

I agree washing and rotating among a couple of OEM filters makes sense. Especially if they get covered with mowing chaff after a few hours.

 

[clemsonfor]

True, but as noted over in the other thread the filter enclosure already loads up fast with debris when pulling from in front of the radiator. I think pulling from behind the fan (through that gap) would gather even more debris and plug the element even faster.

I think at one time AC made this correct element, but abandoned production long ago. Its dimensions are identical to OEM.

Yea i was thinking the only downside would be that it would load up with fluff and dust faster.

Ok So it sounds like the AC filter is discontinued. I was wondering why i had not heard of others just buying it at pepboys or somewhere if it was able to be had.

 

[clemsonfor]

California, i just typed that AC number into google and one of the results was your post on nettratortalk.com.

You basically posted the same thing you did here. I noticed some of the guys from MTF as well. The reason i clicked it is because the preview blurb sounded just like what you wrote here.

Looks like there hasent been any activity on that board since 2008. I always hated those forums set up like that. I guess its still there for archival purposes but you cant post anymore? Anyway i have had some informative posts on boards like that but some junk as well. These style like TBN has been abound i know since maybe late 90s but i know early 00's as i saw them in college but did not get into it till after. I guess this format is just more costly?

 

[clemsonfor]

Just looked at the AC web site. They no longer list an air filter.

They do list about 3-4 oil filters though?

Parts Information | ACDelco - Version 2.11

One is the PF2 which i recognize from my days at a parts house as well as the PF1127. Like others said i think that is a common honda filter. Im thinking after looking at the pic that a PF2 is the longer GM filter that they used on many things including the S10 blazer. There was a short and a tall filter, both were the same other than capacity, The 4wd model used the shorter one because of clearance issues but both would fit and were the same specs. SOme of the later s10 (old body style) 4wd i know had remote filters located i think on the front driver side of the engine bay, or maybe it was front right?

 

[California]

Yep, I first posted those photos there. Mark and I started a Yanmar forum there, and we expected that some of the Yahoo posters might join because at that time the responses in the yahoo group were seldom helpful. But after a while we found that Yanmar enthusiasts generally disappeared over there and re-appeared here on TBN or elsewhere. I remained active here, while Mark moved on elsewhere. It seems to me that the moderators here frown on mention of other forums, so lets just leave it at that.

Is that S10 the early Isuzu-built version? It sounds like it used the universal Honda/Subaru oil filter which I think is the same one as Yanmar specifies. My early Trooper used that filter too.

 

[Kays Supply]

I buy the NAPA/WIX 1334 oil filters by the case. It fits my Yanmar trackhoe, Kubota mower, Kia Sorento, and something else I can't remember. Pretty handy that way.

 

[clemsonfor]

Yep, I first posted those photos there. Mark and I started a Yanmar forum there, and we expected that some of the Yahoo posters might join because at that time the responses in the yahoo group were seldom helpful. But after a while we found that Yanmar enthusiasts generally disappeared over there and re-appeared here on TBN or elsewhere. I remained active here, while Mark moved on elsewhere. It seems to me that the moderators here frown on mention of other forums, so lets just leave it at that.

Is that S10 the early Isuzu-built version? It sounds like it used the universal Honda/Subaru oil filter which I think is the same one as Yanmar specifies. My early Trooper used that filter too.

I think those old s10's only used the isuzu motor in the deisel back in the early 80s when i was availible. As far as i know isuzu's were the same as s10s through the 90's.I may be wrong on the filter , but the size dimensions look similar, id have to look up the application to confirm the part #s. I was thinking that the early 90s isuzu trucks and s10s were the isuzus. I think the ones in the 80s were all american. I know mine had the 2.8v6 which is straight american motor from GM and the Much more popular and powerful 4.3 and 4.3 vortec later on is also a GM motor.The 4cyl they used was a 2.5L i beleive it may have been Isuzu but i was thinking that it was the ameerican motor?

 

[Kernopelli]

I buy the NAPA/WIX 1334 oil filters by the case. It fits my Yanmar trackhoe, Kubota mower, Kia Sorento, and something else I can't remember. Pretty handy that way.

Wow, I need to spend some time cross referencing my filters. I left Rural king this A.M. with $138 of oil and different filters.....wonder if I'm buying too many different ones when I could be doing the same thing Reed is? Save some time and money. I really prefer the WIX anyway and should have gone to where I could have gotten them. Oil was cheaper at RK and only wanted to make one stop. I'll have to check out my filter needs more closely.

 

[clemsonfor]

Wow, I need to spend some time cross referencing my filters. I left Rural king this A.M. with $138 of oil and different filters.....wonder if I'm buying too many different ones when I could be doing the same thing Reed is? Save some time and money. I really prefer the WIX anyway and should have gone to where I could have gotten them. Oil was cheaper at RK and only wanted to make one stop. I'll have to check out my filter needs more closely.

Um you would know if they all were the same, they would all be the same size and have the same number as the one you put on the other item. My point is if you left the store with 4 different filter numbers all the same brand i doubt this will work for you.

My saturn and toyota as well as my lawnmower do however use the same filter!

 

[Brake Weight]

Many filters fit many different things, and several will fit any one particular thing. It never crossed my mind until one day I was looking up K&N and M1 filters for my car and truck. They have fewer varieties of filters, so the few will cover many more than Fram or AC or whatever. If the thread is the same, the sealing element is the same, and there's enough clearance, then it fits. The larger the filter is generally more filtering media. Also, I'd make sure it has a valve if the OEM had one as it helps on start up lubrication.

 

[Kernopelli]

Um you would know if they all were the same, they would all be the same size and have the same number as the one you put on the other item. My point is if you left the store with 4 different filter numbers all the same brand i doubt this will work for you.

Um, really? I'd have to be pretty dense to do what you stated and not figure out they were "different filters". I don't know why you think I bought 4 filters or assumed that whatever I bought was all the same brand but both assumptions are wrong. Your doubt that Reeds scenario will work for me may well be correct but I have to disagree with that logic based upon your reasoning alone and here is why and the reason Reeds post made me think about this and make a response in the first place.

I have never bought every filter I need for everything I have at one time....and didn't that day at Rural King. Most people might?...I don't. I did buy 2 filters of 2 different brands because availability forced me to. In fact I usually buy one filter...maybe two at a time. When I know something needs an oil change I stop at the farm store, NAPA, O'Reilly's, Wal Mart, Auto Zone or whoever else is closest to where I'm traveling and look up the filter and make my purchase depending on 2 factors -- Is it in stock? If it is and available in more than one brand I usually purchase it based on brand.


Reed posted he uses WIX 51334 for multiple needs and I thought wow, is that really the exact filter every one of those uses as the principal application? I looked it up...It is for his Sorrento, ZD326 but his VIO 27 ( assuming that's what you've still got Reed) the actual filter WIX lists for it is the 51365 but the VIO 30 uses the 51334 and although there is a difference between the physical dimensions of those 2 filters, the seal diameter measurements and all other specs are the same. Why couldn't that 51334 work on it? It seals correctly, is designed the same from that point inward, flows the same, etc. I know for fact the Kohler engine in my zero turn will accept (per Kohler) a number of different filter sizes/thus filter numbers...found that out accidentally while looking online one day. Prior to that it strongly appeared per J.Deere that I had basically 1 filter choice from each filter manufacturer...wrong. When I recently changed the filter on my Z71 I was shocked to see that the old one was huge in comparison to the one I purchased to replace it. I thought I had to have gotten the wrong (new) filter. I looked up both filters online and they were listed by their respective manufacturers as being compatible to the 5.3L chevy. So now I personally have 2 applications that I have discovered that size alone is not always a limiting OR determining factor in {exactly} which filter I have to use. I know you said same size/same brand....I'm just saying that when crossreferencing brands they can and sometime will be different size ( length is what I have seen to be the difference personally). If I can do some online crossreferencing between filters that may have slight variations from the quote-"principal filter" but they have the same Seal face ,Thread Size, By-Pass Valve Setting, Anti-Drain Back Valve option, Beta Ratio,Burst Pressure, Max Flow Rate, Nominal Micron Rating, etc...but I would never know that because they are a few numbers different when you try to match them to the application, it is reasonable to believe there is no reason I couldn't safely use them on multiple applications. They do label them "principal".....doesn't say 'ONLY"and I do believe that is because they are the best choice for specific reasons which primrily appear to be diminsion when everything else is identical. So, unless the filter is just too big, etc this would allow me to do what makes the most sense.....buy the brand I most prefer, in bulk and save me from my bad habit of making trips to buy 1 or 2 filters at the last minute and save time, money and aggravation of looking up whatever filter I need based on wherever I happen to stop to get it etc. Maybe I won't be able to match up any? My whole point was to try based on what I've explained. Maybe I can match 2 or 3 or more and if I could only match half of what I use I'd be thrilled. If nothing comes of it other than it's made me realize I need to quit jacking around and when I stop at NAPA just get a half dozen of each of what I need and stop the madness of stopping here and there to get a filter I'd prefer not to have I'm money ahead already.