Trauma kit (first aid going beyond what you can get at Wal-Mart)

[CompactTractorFan]

For all of you who were talking about training, you can take a "First Responder" course which is less than an EMT course, but more than a basic first aid course...

 

[aczlan]

For all of you who were talking about training, you can take a "First Responder" course which is less than an EMT course, but more than a basic first aid course...

So it is more than the Red Cross "First Aid, Responding to Emergencies" course? I took that and about the only thing that I didn't already know from Scouts (First Aid merit badge) was the part on delivering a baby.

Aaron Z

 

[BruceWard]

Our vehicles have a camping first aid kit plus a few QuikClot bandages QuikClot saves lives by rapidly stopping severe bleeding. For Home, Sports, Travel, & Pets

 

[medicshawn]

I'm not sure anyone is using any of the magic clotting stuff anymore. Seems there were problems with the different versions.

I would have a basic kit with something to clean out wounds and some regular band aids. I like the addition of some big trauma dressings. You can use a belt as a tourniquet.

If you can't handle it with those things and some basic safety gear eye protection, a helmet, gloves etc.. you're probably not gpoing to make it anyway.

 

[kjung17]

The first aid kit in my service truck is a joke. A handful of shop towels and electrical tape are more useful. A cut that can be covered by the average band-aid, doesn't need a band-aid. Rub a little dirt in it an keep going.
The dangers of working around machinery are often overlooked or underrated. Be aware of your surroundings and play the "what if" game. What if...that shaft comes off. What if... that chain breaks.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

I recently became CPR and Wilderness First Aid certified. Most store first aid kits are about worthless, you need to pack your own for the activity you are doing.

Center for Wilderness Safety - Online Gear Store

 

[gwjd]

i belive there is a product called quick clot

suposed to gell blood .... also cell phone and make sure every one knows where you are and where cell service is if its a remote situation .....

 

[kjung17]

i belive there is a product called quick clot

suposed to gell blood .... also cell phone and make sure every one knows where you are and where cell service is if its a remote situation .....

I hear the Quick clot powder can cause burns due to the heat produced by the chemical reaction. Also, can cause permanent eye damage if used in windy conditions.

 

[JD955SC]

Quick clot...that's a whole 'nother issue.

The first version burned, true. They redid the formula, however, and it is now sold primarily in sponge and gauze form.

Celox is a similar item, made of different stuff and doesn't burn. It's a bit more expensive than QC.

There are other brands/types of hemostatic agents, too. QC and Celox are just the two more common/accessible brands.

I'm still doing more research on both of these items before I move to purchase them.

The first aid kit in my service truck is a joke.

Most every company provided kit I have ever seen is like that. Heck, many LE officers don't have anything like a trauma kit (unless they purchased it themselves).

 

[Soundguy]

The first aid kit in my service truck is a joke. A handful of shop towels and electrical tape are more useful. A cut that can be covered by the average band-aid, doesn't need a band-aid. Rub a little dirt in it an keep going.
The dangers of working around machinery are often overlooked or underrated. Be aware of your surroundings and play the "what if" game. What if...that shaft comes off. What if... that chain breaks.

i agree.. about the only thing a bandaid is good for is to cover a blister on my foot in a shoe.

the only usefull items in a regular first aid kit are the roll of gauge or large gauze pad and the tape.. maybee the gloves, if you are dealing with another person.. that and maybee an iodine pad.. that even though is less needed. blood flow leanses the wound.. and we are talking about emergency dressing.. not final finished product. A bad wound is going to need treatment.. both mechanically.. and likely pharmaceutically.. plus a bad one may need to be debrided anyway.. they can clean it then... that's why I like either advanced kits.. or ones I put together myself.

soundguy

 

[Egon]

i agree.. about the only thing a bandaid is good for is to cover a blister on my foot in a shoe.
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Duct tape will do a much better job on the blisters. Exspecially if you get it on just as a hot spot is felt or even before if one is anticipated.:thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

[Soundguy]

i agree.. about the only thing a bandaid is good for is to cover a blister on my foot in a shoe.
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Duct tape will do a much better job on the blisters. Exspecially if you get it on just as a hot spot is felt or even before if one is anticipated.:thumbsup::thumbsup:

yep.. masking tap works good too!


soundguy

 

[CompactTractorFan]

So it is more than the Red Cross "First Aid, Responding to Emergencies" course? I took that and about the only thing that I didn't already know from Scouts (First Aid merit badge) was the part on delivering a baby.

Aaron Z

Yes, this is from Wikipedia:

First responders in the United States

[edit] History of

The U.S. Department of Transportation (D.O.T.) recognized a gap between the typical eight hours training required for providing advanced first aid (as taught by the Red Cross) and the 180 hours typical of an EMT-Basic program. Also, some rural communities could not afford the comprehensive training and highly experienced instructors required for a full EMT-Basic course. The First Responder training program began in 1979 as an outgrowth of the "Crash Injury Management" course.
In 1995 the D.O.T. issued a manual for an intermediate level of training called "First Responder." This training can be completed in forty to sixty hours. Importantly, this training can be conducted by an EMT-Basic with some field experience謡hich is a resource available "in-house" for many volunteer fire departments who do not have the resources for full EMT training. The first responder training is intended to fill the gap between First Aid and EMT-Basic.
The American Red Cross conducts a course titled "Emergency Response" that fits this definition.

[edit] Scope of practice


Emergency responders are tested during a training exercise.


First Responders in the US can support Emergency Medical Technicians and Paramedics, provide basic first aid for soft tissue and bone injuries and assist in childbirth. They are also trained in packaging, moving and transporting patients.[1]
[edit] First responder skills and limitations

Lifesaving skills in the first responder course include recognizing unsafe scenarios and hazardous materials emergencies, protection from blood borne pathogens, controlling bleeding, applying splints, conducting a primary life-saving patient assessment, in-line spinal stabilization and transport, and calling for more advanced medical help.
Emergency medical oxygen is a common supplementary skill that may be added in accordance with the 1995 DOT First Responder:National Standard Curriculum guidelines[5] or under the authority of EMS agencies or training providers such as the American Red Cross. Other supplementary skills at this level can include the taking of vital signs including manual blood pressures, advanced splinting and the use of the Automated External Defibrillator (AED).[6]
First Responders can serve as secondary providers with some volunteer EMS services. A certified first responder can be seen either as an advanced first aid provider, or as a limited provider of emergency medical care when more advanced providers are not yet on scene or available.
[edit] Rescue

The National Fire Protection Association regulations 1006[7] and 1670[8] state that all "rescuers" must have medical training to perform any technical rescue operation, including cutting the vehicle itself during an extrication. Therefore, in most all rescue environments, whether it is an EMS Department or Fire Department that runs the rescue, the actual rescuers who cut the vehicle and run the extrication scene or perform any rescue such as rope rescues, etc., are Medical First Responders, Emergency Medical Technicians, or Paramedics, as most every rescue has a patient involved.
[edit] Traditional first responders

The first responder training is considered a bare minimum for emergency service workers who may be sent out in response to a call for help and is almost always required for professional firefighters, such as the FDNY, who require valid CFR-D (Certified First Responder-Defibrillation) certification for all firefighters. The first responder level of emergency medical training is also often required for police officers.
[edit] Non-traditional first responders

Many people who do not fall into the earlier mentioned categories seek out or receive Certified First Responder training through their employment because they are likely to be first on the scene of a medical emergency, or because they work far from medical help.
Some of these non-traditional first responders include:

• Park rangers
• Taxi Drivers
• Utility workers
• Teachers, childcare workers, and school bus drivers
• Designated industrial workers in a large facility (industrial plant) or at a remote site (fish-packing plant, commercial vessel, oil rig)
• Security Officers
• Bodyguards
• General aviation pilots and commercial flight attendants
• Sports coaches and Athletic trainers
• Hunting and fishing guides
• Search and rescue personnel
• Campus Responders and campus police
• Lifeguards/Ski Patrollers
• Camp counsellors
• Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts and leaders
• Community Emergency Response Team (CERT) members (varies by jurisdiction)
• Airport ground personnel