Large boulder must go

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ktm010

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I have a large limestone boulder 6' wide 10' long about 5' thick happens to be right where a new garage is planned to go. (Plan A)Tried a nice hot fire under one end which did form some cracks, but I figured I'd run out of wood before the rock would give in. (Plan B) Then rented a 60lbs jack hammer and compressor, which hardly touched it, pounded it for hours , the best luck was the end the fire had made several cracks in, some large chunks broke off. (Plan C) Betonamit or Dexpan, or feather and wedges. Leaning towards feather and wedges might be less money, then I can reuse if things don't split small enough. Any comments or ideas would be great
 

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Some rental shop have rock drills. If you can pepper it with holes in a line it'll help with either the F&W or the expanding agents. You can also check with a blaster. Smaller ones have hand held drills and could come out and drill it for not too much.
 
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I couldn't believe the jack hammer did so little, I even have some hairline cracks to follow, no luck, tried the differant style bits also, just seemed to bore holes. wondering what size F & W , 3/4" or 1" maybe.
 
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Limestone is a sedimentary rock. Try the jackhammer horizontal in a seam if you can find one. Aw heck, I can see a starting place on the right side in the pic about a third from the top.
 
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Pay a guy to deal with it. Been there done that. Rented a jack hammer ect with no luck and wore myself out. In the end $100 to a local farmer with a large New Holland Backhoe did the job in under 45 minutes.

A guy with a Bobcat and a jackhammer head would also be a good way to go.

Chris
 
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I like the idea of burying the sucker, but I'am the one who dug it up in the first place when we built the house 22 years ago, plus many more, just not as big. I thought we placed it in a good spot, it was so large and slow to move. As far as the horizontal cracks tried it, also have three or four hairline cracks verticaly no cracks would open up, just the fire treated ones.
 
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Like most things it is all technique. The first thing I can tell you is that pounding perpendicularly down on it will not get you far. Rock is strongest in compression.

We had an exercise in the engineering corps where a boulder half that size but granite was brought in while we were away one day and each platoon had a chance to have a go at it to get it moved. Considering that there were over 300 of us, only with hand tools, that rock got bludgeoned something silly for over 8 hours and all we had were a few splinters and a lot of people who needed bandaging. Once all the brute force had been worn out, a few intellectuals remained, who had stood back during "the show".

You really have to look carefully to find the shear planes and work accurately to split the rock by wedging between the natural laminations or fracture lines. A 2lb hammer and a handful of sharp chisels will do the job. Obviously, you want to try to split chunks off near the surface. Once you are breaking of layers 3" thick you can be bolder and try for thicker, but beware, the softer the rock, the less likely it will work. With the granite we first got a few slabs off maybe an inch thick, then 3" and finally we were getting chunks off 6" thick or more. But that stuff is brittle. One had to be dead nuts on the orientation/alignment of the point of the chisel to the "fault line", else all you got was dust.

Slow down, take some time and look real careful at the surface and avoid the "sheer force" mentality. I can assure you that the Egyptians and the people on Easter island had only hand tools and hew all those giant blocks and slabs out of solid rock and there was definitely some technique involved.
 
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Don't listen to them...........ya just need a little more gunpowder, compressed a little tighter:laughing::laughing::laughing:
 
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Why on earth would you want to get rid of that beautimus rock Id kill for it lol. Im casing a rock that the road crew said I can have in Alabama just waiting for some time to get it.
 
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For feathers and wedges, or other places call them other names, you are going to have to go bigger than you think. I used 3/4 on stuff that I square up that is only 2' thick. Call trow and holden or google them. They will tell you approximately what size you will need. They do boulders for a living. I bought at least two sets off them in the 3/4 and 5/8 size. Depending on the width, you may need more than one set to get across it.
 
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Call the Mythbuster guys and tell them you want a big explosion right where the rock is. Those guys love blowing stuff up.
What about the concrete or rock saws and cutting some relief cuts in it?
 
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Where are you located? Do you have freezing temperatures? Fiil the holes you have already made with water and let it freeze.

I would also keep the boulder. Drag it to the gate and put your house number on it.
 
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You guys who want rocks must never have lived in New England. :laughing:

True. I am looking for them all over our land. Most of the rocks we find are red granite from Canada. The glacier brought them in during the ice ages. I saw few of single garage size on somebody else land. I heard a story about an Iowa farmer who found a rock on his land and decided to dig it out. It turned out to be small house size. Nevertheless they got it out and it became local tourist attraction.
 
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Put a Harbor Freight label on it and have Dargo come over to play with it....he'll have it busted up in no time:laughing:
 
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Seems like a LOT of work to remove it. How about someone with a dozer or large TLB (or rent one) to just move it somewhere else? Out of the way, use it as a cornerstone for your property line, or I also like the idea of putting your house number on it at your driveway....

it would save lots of effort, and maybe a busted thumb....:laughing:
 
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I've found my wife to be particularly effective at crushing / obliterating stones

At least mine anyway

"what honey, sure I'll stop watching the playoff game and run out to the store and get some milk and bread and feminine hygiene products and then make lunch while you soak in the tub, of course I don't mind"

Joel
 
 
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