3-Point Hitch I thought 3 point specs were universal

[corey9212]

I have a BX2660 with a cat 1 3PH. I am currently converting it over to having a hydraulic top bar, got the hydraulic kit from kubota and installed it no problem but I saw princess auto has a cat 1 hydraulic top bar for $100 cheaper than kubota so I went the cheaper route and bought it. Well it turns out that the part that you put your pin through to attach it to the tractor is wider than the tractor opening, plus the hydraulic quick connect is 1/4" with a square center in the middle so I got the same size for the male part and went to plug it in to find it is a hair too big to fit. Isn't everything supposed to be universal throughout the categories? All cat 1's are the same measurements along with all the cat 2's ect. Was hoping to use it to grade my driveway one last time before the snow comes but looks like it's not going to happen cause now I have to find new parts.

 

[oldnslo]

I have a BX2660 with a cat 1 3PH. I am currently converting it over to having a hydraulic top bar, got the hydraulic kit from kubota and installed it no problem but I saw princess auto has a cat 1 hydraulic top bar for $100 cheaper than kubota so I went the cheaper route and bought it. Well it turns out that the part that you put your pin through to attach it to the tractor is wider than the tractor opening, plus the hydraulic quick connect is 1/4" with a square center in the middle so I got the same size for the male part and went to plug it in to find it is a hair too big to fit. Isn't everything supposed to be universal throughout the categories? All cat 1's are the same measurements along with all the cat 2's ect. Was hoping to use it to grade my driveway one last time before the snow comes but looks like it's not going to happen cause now I have to find new parts.

I think if you look at the specs for your BX it is listed as a limited Cat 1. Part of it is Cat 1 and Part is Cat 0. It has to do with pivot pins sizes etc..

 

[gwdixon]

Wait until you put on one of those framed quick hitches and find out that your implement pins are set at all different dimensions.

You may have to use a grinder to get things to fit correctly with your hydraulic top link.

Also, some auto stores make hydraulic lines so replacing the ones that don't fit is an option. You may end up spending as much as a Kubota-made top link when its all over.

Sometimes being "thrifty" is not the best choice.

 

[sweettractors]

It is mostly your pin diameters that are standard. Ken Sweet

 

[VroomVroom]

Hi, yes I was wondering the same thing. We only used a farmall without 3pt. But I got a mahindra 2816 and might make some attachments..though I dont know what dimension I should put the pins at and so on. What would be the standard as I know it is all adjustable, thanks.

 

[sweettractors]

Hi, yes I was wondering the same thing. We only used a farmall without 3pt. But I got a mahindra 2816 and might make some attachments..though I dont know what dimension I should put the pins at and so on. What would be the standard as I know it is all adjustable, thanks.

All you need do, is find a Cat 1 grader blade, brush hog, plow or anything laying around and measure the spacing. That is all there is to it. Ken Sweet

 

[Gary Fowler]

I ran into some of the same issues with my landscape rake. The top yoke for the 3rd link was too narrow for Cat 2 linkage. The dealer had just loosened up the bolts to let the linkage fit and used some sleeves on the cat 1 pins which was ok, since I may also use it on my Cat 1 equipment but I had to make the top link yoke wide enought to accept the 3 rd link. Luckily I noticed it loose and had some big washers and was able to space it out correctly and tighten the bolt before it all came apart.

 

[racolton]

I have a BX2660 with a cat 1 3PH. I am currently converting it over to having a hydraulic top bar, got the hydraulic kit from kubota and installed it no problem but I saw princess auto has a cat 1 hydraulic top bar for $100 cheaper than kubota so I went the cheaper route and bought it.

Kubota offers a hydraulic top link for the BX2660?? Do you happen to know the Part Number?

 

[BXpanded]

I think if you look at the specs for your BX it is listed as a limited Cat 1. Part of it is Cat 1 and Part is Cat 0. It has to do with pivot pins sizes etc..

BX2200, 2230 are Limited Cat 1. BX2350, 2360, 2660 are Cat 1.

 

[bp fick]

I think if you look at the specs for your BX it is listed as a limited Cat 1. Part of it is Cat 1 and Part is Cat 0. It has to do with pivot pins sizes etc..

As BXpanded stated correctly, the modern BX is not a limited Cat 1.

However, to the OP. When it comes to 3 pt, the universal thing is a bit sketchy.

 

[OrangeRidge]

the universal thing is a bit sketchy.

It sure is !

 

[oldnslo]

BX2200, 2230 are Limited Cat 1. BX2350, 2360, 2660 are Cat 1.

My BX1850 is a limited version, but will admit I am not sure about the 23** size.

Roy

 

[bp fick]

My BX1850 is a limited version, but will admit I am not sure about the 23** size.

Roy

Roy, Before you get a bunch of BX1850/60 guys ranting that their 3 pt is NOT limited Cat 1, I'll merely say I had a BX1860 so I know the 3 pt system and it's "limitations", if you will. I know that in most cases, XB sized implements simply fit it better and work better. XB is a marketing designation that meant Cat 1 implements with spacing and other aspects more in keeping with limited Cat 1 or Cat 0 sizings.

However, technically, Kubota never stated or states that the BX1850/60 three points are "limited" cat 1. They call them Cat 1. Period.

Here's the brochure:Powered by Google Docs

This is a fuzzy area, that much I will grant you.

 

[corey9212]

Wait until you put on one of those framed quick hitches and find out that your implement pins are set at all different dimensions.

You may have to use a grinder to get things to fit correctly with your hydraulic top link.

Also, some auto stores make hydraulic lines so replacing the ones that don't fit is an option. You may end up spending as much as a Kubota-made top link when its all over.

Sometimes being "thrifty" is not the best choice.

I have one for it, it stayed on for one hook up then it came off. Only one of my 6 attachments fits properly. The others need modification

 

[gwdixon]

I have one for it, it stayed on for one hook up then it came off. Only one of my 6 attachments fits properly. The others need modification

If you go with the Pat's system they will all fit up perfectly.

 

[SandburRanch]

I have a BX2660 with a cat 1 3PH. I am currently converting it over to having a hydraulic top bar, got the hydraulic kit from kubota and installed it no problem but I saw princess auto has a cat 1 hydraulic top bar for $100 cheaper than kubota so I went the cheaper route and bought it. Well it turns out that the part that you put your pin through to attach it to the tractor is wider than the tractor opening, plus the hydraulic quick connect is 1/4" with a square center in the middle so I got the same size for the male part and went to plug it in to find it is a hair too big to fit. Isn't everything supposed to be universal throughout the categories? All cat 1's are the same measurements along with all the cat 2's ect. Was hoping to use it to grade my driveway one last time before the snow comes but looks like it's not going to happen cause now I have to find new parts.

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I suspect at one time the specs were universal and then some how they must have gotten cross bred with the screwed up plumbing industry followed by inbreeding and this is the sad situation we have today.

 

[corey9212]

Kubota offers a hydraulic top link for the BX2660?? Do you happen to know the Part Number?

I thought they did but calling my dealer today and they said they have a local supplier to get those parts from.

 

[corey9212]

If you go with the Pat's system they will all fit up perfectly.

I am seriously considering that system cause this is a P.I.T.A. Trying to convert everything.

 

[corey9212]

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I suspect at one time the specs were universal and then some how they must have gotten cross bred with the screwed up plumbing industry followed by inbreeding and this is the sad situation we have today.

Lol, I agree cause I was talking to a hydraulics expert and even showed him the female part of the hydraulic hook up and he said it's all about making money. The connectors that came with the kit are very, very slightly different than the others wich means that to use them you have to buy the male connectors from that same company or they won't hook up.

 

[RickB]

I have a BX2660 with a cat 1 3PH. I am currently converting it over to having a hydraulic top bar, got the hydraulic kit from kubota and installed it no problem but I saw princess auto has a cat 1 hydraulic top bar for $100 cheaper than kubota so I went the cheaper route and bought it. Well it turns out that the part that you put your pin through to attach it to the tractor is wider than the tractor opening, plus the hydraulic quick connect is 1/4" with a square center in the middle so I got the same size for the male part and went to plug it in to find it is a hair too big to fit. Isn't everything supposed to be universal throughout the categories? All cat 1's are the same measurements along with all the cat 2's ect. Was hoping to use it to grade my driveway one last time before the snow comes but looks like it's not going to happen cause now I have to find new parts.

The dimensions and pin spec's ARE universal.
Adherence to those specs varies widely.