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crazyal

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So I'm down to my last decision before I order my tractor. I'm thinking that it may be worth while to get at least one remote. I really don't know what I'd use it for but things do change so it's best to get it now and have it if needed.

I already have a log splitter so that's one option I wouldn't get.

If I understand it correctly the valves come in standard or float. What types of implements would would require a float style. If I did get the float style would it also have a position that would hold a cylinder at the position you raise it to or does the float option replace the middle position of the standard type.
 
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So I'm down to my last decision before I order my tractor. I'm thinking that it may be worth while to get at least one remote. I really don't know what I'd use it for but things do change so it's best to get it now and have it if needed.

I already have a log splitter so that's one option I wouldn't get.

If I understand it correctly the valves come in standard or float. What types of implements would would require a float style. If I did get the float style would it also have a position that would hold a cylinder at the position you raise it to or does the float option replace the middle position of the standard type.

Float Detents only float when you place the valve in the float postion. Unless in the float position, the valves hold their position. This is how front end loaders behave -- they use float detent valves for the lift control.

A batwing mower is a good example of a float detent valve. Once the wing is lowered, you place the valve in the float position so the wing can "flap" up and down to follow the contour of the ground.

I'm sure there are others, but a log splitter is the only thing I can think of where a Self Canceling Detent value would come in handy.
 
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So I'm down to my last decision before I order my tractor. I'm thinking that it may be worth while to get at least one remote. I really don't know what I'd use it for but things do change so it's best to get it now and have it if needed.

I already have a log splitter so that's one option I wouldn't get.

If I understand it correctly the valves come in standard or float. What types of implements would would require a float style. If I did get the float style would it also have a position that would hold a cylinder at the position you raise it to or does the float option replace the middle position of the standard type.


Any attachment that is ground engaging requires a float valve and the bat wing mower example given previously is an excellent example. a rear mounted flail mower is also a great example for an implement that should be allowed to float as it lessens the effects of the implements weight on the tractors forward motion as it is only towing the implement rather than supporting its weight.


The valve will hold its cylinder position only as long as the cylinder does not leak off during that time of use. if you want definite control you should expect to buy needle valves to lock the position of the rear implement as a four way check valve will cost much more than a needle valve for your use and require more plumbing.



You want dual remotes for a rear snow blower as they typically come standard with chute and spout controls in the case of the Pronovost Puma snow blowers, You have a needle valve under the seat to lock the hitch postition in one place if you were using a rake, rear blade, box blade, one bottom plow, tiller, cultivator etc. as standard equipment.

The needle valve under the seat also prevents the implement from sinking while transporting it which avoids suddenly being thrown forward when the plow digs into the asphault to break new ground :laughing:
 
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Would a flail mower even need a remote or would it be driven off of the PTO and use the 3pt to adjust the height? I'm planning on getting a front mount blower that uses the center PTO. I'm looking at a herd sander that'll need the rear PTO.

Someday I wouldn't mind either buying or making a rear grapple for logs. That would require a rear remote but not one that would float. But it may be a project that never gets done or I may settle for a log arch.
 
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So I'm down to my last decision before I order my tractor. I'm thinking that it may be worth while to get at least one remote. I really don't know what I'd use it for but things do change so it's best to get it now and have it if needed.

I already have a log splitter so that's one option I wouldn't get.

If I understand it correctly the valves come in standard or float. What types of implements would would require a float style. If I did get the float style would it also have a position that would hold a cylinder at the position you raise it to or does the float option replace the middle position of the standard type.

I recently picked up my new B3030 with both remotes installed, one for a hyd. top link and the other for a hyd. angle back blade and whatever else may come along. The price was $1225.00 installed. The control levers are pretty cheap and flimsy for the money and the float lever rubs the paint off the fender in the rearward position,the dealer had to replace the hose on the double action valve with a straight fitting at the outward(right) coupler because the included hose had a angle fitting on it which put a kink in the hose and made it very hard to plug into and was bent around the ROPS, also replace the double action valve that locked up and would'nt move, you also have to watch getting on the tractor and putting your hand on the right armrest because the seat tilts enough to pinch your fingers on the levers and bend and pop the cover off around the levers. The dealer has taken care of the problems and they are fine and very handy, but for the price you would have thought Kubota would have done better. I have some buddies with a metal fab shop that are going to make better levers for the valves and a stainless cover around the levers so it will be a nice setup when finished. Good luck with yours.
 
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I have two closed center remotes on my L3940. One for the hydraulic top link (great addition), other to angle rear blade or other options which may come in future. FYI, I paid $425 for each one, plus tax, and that included installation. Good luck with your purchase, great tractor. Philip.
 
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I looked at the top n tilt and if you get it you also have to get a two valve set up, I think only one valve was floating but not sure. I just couldn't find enough of a use for it though. Also if you are not using your 3pt is there a holder for the cylinder? Does it swing up out of the way? Anyway if the tractor had it I would take it but I just couldn't see myself having the need for it.
 
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Would a flail mower even need a remote or would it be driven off of the PTO and use the 3pt to adjust the height? I'm planning on getting a front mount blower that uses the center PTO. I'm looking at a herd sander that'll need the rear PTO.

Someday I wouldn't mind either buying or making a rear grapple for logs. That would require a rear remote but not one that would float. But it may be a project that never gets done or I may settle for a log arch.


The three point hitch raises and lowerrs the mower itself and the flail mower has one or trwo gauge rollers to adjust the cutting height of the flail mower

the flail mower would not require a remote unless it is powered by hydraulics

a rear mounted Pronovost Puma model snow blower will be a better purchase for your situation as it takes less effort to mount and dismount the rear blower and it uses less power per foot of cut while snow blowing. the majority of the pronovost puma model snowblowers have hydraulic spout and chute control which is so nice in a cab.

About the remotes if you decide to order dual remotes find a hydraulic repair shop that handles aeroquip or parker fittings and replace the factory supplied quick coupler fittings with the the aeroquip or parker fittings and be sure to install the male ends on the tractor side and the female ends on the implement or implements to make it easier to install the hoses
 
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I put on an extra joystick for my remotes and use the float function as an emergency release when winching. It is a lot quicker to just push into float than to reverse and go the other way.
 
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The three point hitch raises and lowerrs the mower itself and the flail mower has one or trwo gauge rollers to adjust the cutting height of the flail mower

the flail mower would not require a remote unless it is powered by hydraulics

a rear mounted Pronovost Puma model snow blower will be a better purchase for your situation as it takes less effort to mount and dismount the rear blower and it uses less power per foot of cut while snow blowing. the majority of the pronovost puma model snowblowers have hydraulic spout and chute control which is so nice in a cab.

About the remotes if you decide to order dual remotes find a hydraulic repair shop that handles aeroquip or parker fittings and replace the factory supplied quick coupler fittings with the the aeroquip or parker fittings and be sure to install the male ends on the tractor side and the female ends on the implement or implements to make it easier to install the hoses

I'm going to use the rear PTO for a Herd sander. I'll rarely, if at all, need the FEL during the winter so I can leave a mid mount PTO driven blower on all season long. With a rear driven front blower each time I needed to sand I would have to remove it.
 

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