Bx 2660 Seat

[Bacffin]

Hello Everyone!

I want to thank you all for the great information that you folks provide. This site is great! I have 2 1/4 acres mostly wooded with pine trees and a large lawn. I am a real newbie and now getting quotes now for a 2660 with a FEL. My main use will be loading for now and when the budget allows, move into mowing and a back hoe. My question is, when I go to purchase the back hoe (woods?) does it come with a reversing seat? The 2660 tractor only comes with a stationary seat now. It may seem like a silly question to some but I want to buy a tractor that I can build on.

Thanks,
Bruce

 

[KeithInSpace]

The Woods BH6000 comes with a seat rotating mechanism.

I've played with the Kubota seat mechanism and like it much more than the Woods solution...at least the solution that was in place when I installed my Woods BH6000 4 years ago. Perhaps they've improved on the design since then.

I've thought about purchasing the Kubota mechanism, but haven't gotten around to it.

All that said, the Woods mechanism works fine. It spins the seat around and back and tilts the seat forward to it is more comfortable/natural to sit in while using the backhoe. It hasn't broken and doesn't seem that it ever will, but once you get it and compare it directly to the Kubota mechanism, you'll know what I'm talking about.

I'm sure you'd be very pleased with the BX2660. It is the 'biggest of the smallest' and will give you many years of joy. I'm just cresting 300 hours on my BX2230 doing all manner of chores and inflicting all manner of abuse...and if I spend 3 hours washing it, you can't tell it from new. Not a moment's problem or a minute's downtime in over 5 years (knocking on own head).

So you know, the BH6000 is ~$5,000 to $5,500 to add later...at least it was when I bought mine. Wonderful device and I'm very pleased with it. But the Kubota unit is a little easier to put on and take off and the overall investment is slightly lower with the BX25...I think it's less than ~$4,000 premium over the BX2360. Of course with the BX2660 you get another few HP, but if you ask the question everyone here would agree that these machines run out of traction LONG before they run out of power. The extra HP will only really matter if you're talking about chippers, generators, or other power-hungry 3PH attachments.

Good luck with your purchase.

 

[Bacffin]

Well thanks for the info Keith. If I had done did a little home work on the BH6000, I would have figured the seat out. Thanks again.

I was actually going to look at BX2360 too. It's about $1000.00 less according to one dealer in NH up here. HP and the reclining seat appear to be the only difference. One attachment I know I'll be getting is a chipper (gawd, do I hate pine trees!) and I need to decide if the extra HP is big enough to warrant the added cost of the 2660. Do you or anyone have some thoughts on this? Saving a Grand would be a great option if I don't need the HP. This is where experience plays a role and I lack it. :confused3:

Thanks,
Bruce

 

[KeithInSpace]

I've not run a chipper or other high HP application off the PTO, so I can't say much about that from experience. Logic would say "the more, the merrier" as far as PTO horsepower and chippers.

As far as normal use, I can speak to that. Normal includes, but is not limited to, FEL loading of dirt, stone, sand, pavers, salt, multch, etc. on and off a trailer, excavation with FEL and with BH, pushing snow, pushing trees, pushing OVER trees, removing 2" scrub pine, hanging pinatas, taking out the garbage, carrying the newspaper, lifting an ATV, oving an air compressor, mowing and bagging 1 acre of heavy wet grass, moving around a 5,000# travel trailer, moving around a 20' utility trailer, and many, many, many other things. As far as NORMAL goes, I have never once wanted a single more HP than I have available. If high range doesn't do it, I have low range. I can pretty much spin all 4 tires on asphalt in low range.

I know a guy with a BX1860 that wishes he had a little more power. I know another guy with a BX1850 that is happy as a clam.

I don't recall a single person on this forum that thought the BX2230, 2350, 2360, 22, 23, or 24 was wanting on power. Folks run out of ground clearance (and move up to a B, L, or M) before they run out of power.

Of course, the BX2660 has more, and that's cool too.

I'm sure others will speak up, confirming or denying the above.

Hope all continues to go well with the decision process.

 

[radioman]

Well, as a BX24 owner all I can say is that its easier to get the right stuff the first time. If you have plans for BH, why not get one built in? A used BX TLB is just as good as new one. I have not sit in a woods BH, but I like the kubota BH so far.

 

[Bacffin]

I would love to get a BX 24 or 25 but the budget doesn't allow for it right now and the used ones in my area are 13k plus.

 

[KeithInSpace]

For my part, I'll offer this:

On the original purchase, my wife told me to "get whatever you can for under $15k". That I did.

6 months later, she saw a backhoe on the back of a B series and offered, "You need one of those."

6 months after that (the following spring), I added a backhoe.

She's happy, I'm happy. It makes better financial sense in the long run to get a BX24/25. But sometimes, that isn't the best decision.

Go with your gut. What Mr. Radioman says is 100% correct...but that doesn't make the way I went about it (adding a BH6000 later) the wrong way to go...

 

[TheFlatlander]

Well thanks for the info Keith.
I was actually going to look at BX2360 too. It's about $1000.00 less according to one dealer in NH up here. HP and the reclining seat appear to be the only difference. One attachment I know I'll be getting is a chipper (gawd, do I hate pine trees!) and I need to decide if the extra HP is big enough to warrant the added cost of the 2660. Do you or anyone have some thoughts on this? Saving a Grand would be a great option if I don't need the HP. This is where experience plays a role and I lack it. :confused3:

Thanks,
Bruce

I have been using a 6" Ginma chipper and have experience it with both the 23 & 26HP models. Both models are able to get the job done. Now with that said the additional PTO power of the BX2660 is noticeable and appreciated.

I got my BX2660 when the change over in the models was just starting from the 50 to 60 series. the The BX2660 was the fist to come out. BX2360 was not available for quite a few months and I wanted nothing to do with the 50 series. So the decision on the BX2660 was kind of made for me. They were hard to get and if I read the serial numbers correctly mine was the 50th made. Anyway-Really glad it went that way, as I make good use of the PTO. Seat was an added bonus.

 

[CHDinCT]

I run a DR chipper off of my 13.7 PTO hp BX1860. It handles dead or green branches up to about 3" fine, sometimes a bit more and on occasion I have to feed it slowly. I think for pine branches, you'd probably be fine with the BX2360. Of course the extra ponies of the 2660 wouldn't hurt, but I'd be inclined to put the money toward a BX25 if I knew I'd need a backhoe at some point.

 

[Bacffin]

I got the dealer to come down $650 more for the BX2660. Is there some dealers out there that sell online? I know shipping must be an issue. There are only 2 dealers in the area, 1 local, 1 an hour away.

The snow is melting and the mess of 70 trees I took down last month is starting to take shape...:laughing:

Thanks,
Bruce

 

[amigauser]

I would get prices from these three dealers.

NY - Emerichs - Emerich Sales & Service - Kubota,Cub Cadet Yanmar,Toro,New & Used Tractors,Exmark,Ferris,Ariens

PA - Messicks - Messick's | Dealer for New Holland, Case IH, Kubota, Cub Cadet and More | Online Parts, Sales & Service.

KY - Barlows - Barlow Equipment - Home of the Kubota Tractor Package Builder

I have purchased two tractors from Kevin Emerich and one from Brady Barlow. Both are very good to deal with. I have also heard great things about Neil Messick. All three deliver into CT/MA area. I live in CT.

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

I've bought several tractors due to needs changing and trying to get the right combination for the current need. I also like trading. I have a BX2660 with FEL and MMM for home use which is primarily mowing. I just bought a BX25 for my business. If you know you are going to add a BH later I will strongly encourage you to look at the BX25. Contact the dealers that sale on line that have been referred to you in a previous post. If your financing, get the bottom line monthly payment for 60 months delivered to your door. Kubota just added the 60 mo 0% on the 1st of March. Price the BX2660 and the BX25. There will probably be very little difference in the monthly payment and now you can get the 0% interest which can make a hugh difference over adding something later that you have to pay going rate interest. Just compare difference in price now. Won't cost naything for them to give you price both ways. Good luck in your hunt.

 

[Bacffin]

Thanks for the sites Amigauser! I have requested quotes for both the BX2660 and the BX25. Like JohnThomas said, it doesn't hurt to ask especially since the financing is 60/0% now. I got Barlows site Sunday reading other threads and received a quote this morning of $12850 for the BX2660 and $16150 for the BX25. Price does not include delivery of $600-700 for my area and I'm not sure of sales tax. I will give them a call later today.

For the local shop around the corner I got a quote for the BX2660 for $13400 and $17400 for the BX25 delivered plus sales tax. The dealer in New Hampshire is a hour away has not got back to me yet. There is no sales tax in NH, so I have to take that into account when the numbers come in.

The journey continues :licking:

Thanks for the help everyone!

Bruce

 

[KeithInSpace]

Considering delivery, I'd calls those prices identical. I'm a fan of making sure the closer shop stays open...I'd even pay a small premium for that. It will pay huge dividends when you need to get it serviced. If your local guy goes out of business, imagine having to pay $700 delivery ON TOP OF your service every 100 hours. Stinky.

If you had the ability to trailer the unit yourself, looks like you could save some bucks. If you were itching for a trailer and have the truck to tow it with, it may be a good time to consider that purchase. You can get a decent 16' 7k# capacity trailer for $2k all day long and twice on Tuesday. As I said, though, that all falls apart if you don't have the truck for it...by truck, I mean any 1/2 ton SUV (Armada, Expedition, Tahoe, Suburban...), or any 1/2 ton-and-up pickup.

Looks like the spread between the BX2660 and BX25 is ~$3k to $4k. Adding a Woods later is $5.5k to $6k. I said it before and I'll say it again. Obviously, better money is on the BX25. HOWEVER, getting a very capable tractor to the homestead with a couple attachments for under $14k is very appealing. Knock out a bunch of projects, recover your investment, store up a few acorns, then get the Woods in a year or two. Silly if you're financing 100% of the purchase at 0%, to be sure. In that case, I'd get the BX25 without looking back. But I like cash and no payments...a get-what-you-can-afford type of guy.

Just to throw more variables in the mix.

 

[Bacffin]

Yes I agree. I am considering these price so far pretty much equivalent. I would love to give the Toreku Tractor my business just for service and warranty convenience. If I can get some other prices (lower) to bring in and compete against, I should feel I got a good price.

I don't have a trailer and don't see a need for one because this is just going to be personal tractor. Although, I know my son will call me up one day and say "Dad, can I borrow the tractor". Sure you can, bring your own trailer.

My buddies all have big equipment and the gear to move them, but It gets old always borrowing someone else's stuff though.

~Bruce

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

Thanks for the sites Amigauser! I have requested quotes for both the BX2660 and the BX25. Like JohnThomas said, it doesn't hurt to ask especially since the financing is 60/0% now. I got Barlows site Sunday reading other threads and received a quote this morning of $12850 for the BX2660 and $16150 for the BX25. Price does not include delivery of $600-700 for my area and I'm not sure of sales tax. I will give them a call later today.

For the local shop around the corner I got a quote for the BX2660 for $13400 and $17400 for the BX25 delivered plus sales tax. The dealer in New Hampshire is a hour away has not got back to me yet. There is no sales tax in NH, so I have to take that into account when the numbers come in.

The journey continues :licking:

Thanks for the help everyone!

Bruce

To me it looks like the BX2660 is OK local but BX25 looks to be much better buy shipped. If your local dealer goes out of business you will only have to go as far as the nearest Kubota dealer if it's warranty and if it's not warranty then to any tractor mechanic. That won't be any $700. If a tractor is sold out of state then no sales tax. If Barlows and probably any other dealer has more sales coming to your area, shipping is reduced. Ask them. If the money is your big factor then order where you get the best price and give it a few weeks to save on shipping. My opinion on saving locals dealers is a couple of hundred dollars more. Above that it becomes them wanting to make to much on me. If your local dealer is charging you more than any other dealer then that's how much more profit they are making than the other dealer. They all pay the same price for the tractor. How much profit should your neighbor make on you? Good luck, you'll like either tractor, I do.

 

[Bacffin]

I agree, the BX25 is a better deal online, but the overall total blows my budget. For the BX2660, one online dealer is already 738 less than my local. That includes the standard shipping rates. Another came in at a decent price with shipping and they are throwing in wheel weights or calcium, rear work lights, block heater and a full tank of fuel. They asked not to mention the price so I won't. The one I really want to here from is the dealer an hour away in NH, but they have not got back to me at all.

My local has been in business for 25 plus years, so do I don't see them folding anytime soon.

Thanks for the information.
Bruce

 

[stevess]

go with toreku. i got my bx25 from them and they are nice to deal with. keep it local if you can

 

[gravedigger]

Hi reading everybody's post and had post my story.Was pricing 2660 w/fel/r4/54" deck with two dealers near me and they were 1200 apart so i asked the other if he could match it cause that is where i have been buying parts already and he just told me to go buy it from the other dealer there is nothing he could do???? So not to hard to figure out what i am going to do if it was a couple hundred i could see not 1200.00

 

[KeithInSpace]

...could see not 1200.00

Tough to say. Perhaps the higher dealer gets their price more often than not, so they don't feel the need to drop their price. Why would they be obligated to match whatever price someone down the street is pawning?

Sometimes prices get to a point that I have more concern over the viability of the CHEAP guy than the guy that sticks to his guns. I've seen more local contractors fold that undercut the competition by 25% than the guys that hold up honest and sincere prices on their services. You can't undercut but for so long.

That said, I'm not a fan of "this is the price, take it or leave it" scenarios, either. Unless the price is ACTUALLY GOOD, it paints the consumer into a corner. Never a good way to start a long-standing relationship.

I have a "one price" dealership, but it's a good price, so I never minded.

Different solution every time. There's a right answer buried in there somewhere and (usually) whichever one you pick, that's the right one.