Branson Frame for front loader and hoe?

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heron

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Can anyone tell me if you need an additional frame for a backhoe if you already have a frame for the loader and if so how does it fit with the loader frame?
TY
I'm leaning towards the Woods Bx80 or 90...
 
/ Branson Frame for front loader and hoe? #2  
Why not the Branson hoe? It comes with the subframe to mount up nicely.
 
/ Branson Frame for front loader and hoe? #3  
I'd say go with what the manufacturer recommends. Since their matching hoe comes with a sub-frame, that's the route I'd go.

Now for the problem:

I'm willing to bet that a Woods sub-frame for your tractor would have to be custom-built.
 
/ Branson Frame for front loader and hoe? #4  
on my '06 3510 there was an additional subframe for the woods backhoe i had. It was very heavy duty.
 
/ Branson Frame for front loader and hoe? #5  
Why not the Branson hoe? It comes with the subframe to mount up nicely.


I agree, go with the Branson hoe. The subframe is already there and is made for the tractor.

Mark
 
/ Branson Frame for front loader and hoe? #6  
on my '06 3510 there was an additional subframe for the woods backhoe i had. It was very heavy duty.

Was it a "universal fit" type sub-frame, or model specific? I'd be surprised if it was model-specific, since they generally look upon our units as second tier, which really ticks me off...

Either way that's good news for the OP if he wishes to pursue the Woods BH.
 
/ Branson Frame for front loader and hoe?
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Local dealer told me either way, branson or woods I'd have to by an additional subframe. Basically, an extra $1000 and it hooks up to the existing loader mount.
I called Branson direct and they had no idea...:confused:

From what I've read the Woods seems heavier duty than the company that makes the hoe for Branson. At the least Woods offers twice the warranty.
 
/ Branson Frame for front loader and hoe? #8  
Local dealer told me either way, branson or woods I'd have to by an additional subframe. Basically, an extra $1000 and it hooks up to the existing loader mount.
I called Branson direct and they had no idea...:confused:

From what I've read the Woods seems heavier duty than the company that makes the hoe for Branson. At the least Woods offers twice the warranty.

What model and year Branson do you own? I bought my Branson 3510 and 8620 backhoe early in 2008 and the backhoe was subframe mounted to fit on my tractor. The backhoe and subframe ran around $6,500 (I think). I would be willing to take some photos of how it mounts for you, if you need me to. IMO, you should not be having such a hard time getting accurate info from your dealer.
The Branson Backhoe is made by Ameriquip, if I remember correctly.

Mark
 
/ Branson Frame for front loader and hoe? #9  
Much as I love my Branson 3820i, I would have to say go with the Woods groundbreaker 90X. I looked into one and it is QUALITY. It has more power is built stronger and you'll probably get better dealer backup from the Woods dealer. Branson needs a better dealer network, in my humble opinion. I absolutely love my Branson, but it would be nice to see more dealers out there, OR more dealers who are a couple of notches above what they are now. I know it's tough times, but when you spend big bucks on a new machine you expect quality dealer backup.
 
/ Branson Frame for front loader and hoe? #10  
Forgot to mention, if you go back in the old threads someone posted pictures of their installation of a 90X on their Branson and I believe the the subframe was made specifically for a Branson .
 
/ Branson Frame for front loader and hoe?
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Yes, first off I've seen the Woods loader and Backhoe in person right next to the Branson stuff. I grew up with very heavy equipment..quarry machines so I know what heavy duty is and the Woods is definitely more heavy duty than the Branson stuff. But, you do pay for it. I had told the Woods guys if the backhoe was 5K out the door they would probably double their sales. Like many others have said on here if you are really going to be using it then buy a real combination unit used and it will dig circles around the Branson setup. Whenever I have used any excavator from 10 ton to 60 ton the sole purpose was to dig up things nothing else could but if I have to constantly worry about "stressing the hoe" it's not worth $9K after all is said and done.
 
/ Branson Frame for front loader and hoe? #12  
Yes, first off I've seen the Woods loader and Backhoe in person right next to the Branson stuff. I grew up with very heavy equipment..quarry machines so I know what heavy duty is and the Woods is definitely more heavy duty than the Branson stuff. But, you do pay for it. I had told the Woods guys if the backhoe was 5K out the door they would probably double their sales. Like many others have said on here if you are really going to be using it then buy a real combination unit used and it will dig circles around the Branson setup. Whenever I have used any excavator from 10 ton to 60 ton the sole purpose was to dig up things nothing else could but if I have to constantly worry about "stressing the hoe" it's not worth $9K after all is said and done.

You are correct in that a dedicated backhoe would dig circles around most any Tractor mounted unit.

I think that most the folks on TBN that have them, use them for "personal" jobs. They dig a hole here and there, pop some stumps or rocks, etc.

For commercial work, you really do need a commercial unit.
 
/ Branson Frame for front loader and hoe?
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You are correct in that a dedicated backhoe would dig circles around most any Tractor mounted unit.

I think that most the folks on TBN that have them, use them for "personal" jobs. They dig a hole here and there, pop some stumps or rocks, etc.

For commercial work, you really do need a commercial unit.

Totally agree with you. I guess it boils down to just how much and how hard you will work it...for instance, I have a house that is just about to begin the build process. I have about 35 stumps 4-8" and then about 6 that are 24-30". I know it can be done with any backhoe but the time it takes and how hard it would be on a tractor mount is the question. Then, what if I want to dig some curtain drains but there is some rock...I don't mean ledge but some rocky soil...will the tractor get too beat up that it's not worth it...?
When that is all said and done I'll be planting trees and shrubs which I know will be gravy for even a 3pt 6' hoe but I guess if I have a hole burning in my pocket I may just go for it..;)
 

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