how to remove broken axle end

/ how to remove broken axle end #1  

Cub5k

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Cub 5252
I removed the left rear axle on my subcompact and found it sheared clean just where the splines begin. I need to know if there is any way to remove the splined end left in the tractor. It would save hours of transmission removal and tear down if I could somehow extract the splined end via the axle housing. Its about 10inches inside to the axle housing but it looks like it sheared fairly even with the bearing so I don't know how much there would be to grab onto. Any ideas??
 
/ how to remove broken axle end #2  
I removed the left rear axle on my subcompact and found it sheared clean just where the splines begin. I need to know if there is any way to remove the splined end left in the tractor. It would save hours of transmission removal and tear down if I could somehow extract the splined end via the axle housing. Its about 10inches inside to the axle housing but it looks like it sheared fairly even with the bearing so I don't know how much there would be to grab onto. Any ideas??

Do you really expect an answer with the info you gave here!
 
/ how to remove broken axle end #3  
I removed the left rear axle on my subcompact and found it sheared clean just where the splines begin. I need to know if there is any way to remove the splined end left in the tractor. It would save hours of transmission removal and tear down if I could somehow extract the splined end via the axle housing. Its about 10inches inside to the axle housing but it looks like it sheared fairly even with the bearing so I don't know how much there would be to grab onto. Any ideas??
Tractor info please and thanks.
 
/ how to remove broken axle end #4  
The redneck way is to take a welding rod, slide it into a piece of PVC pipe (as a guide and insulator) and stick it to the stub. Let it cool and pull.

E/S
 
/ how to remove broken axle end #5  
If the splines aren't twisted you might try a magnet attached to a broom handle or something similar , use same magnet to get any small pieces that may be insde
 
/ how to remove broken axle end #6  
I would try a magnet to see if it just slides out. But there could be a c-clip holding the shaft in the diff which means getting to the diff to take it out.
 
/ how to remove broken axle end #7  
I removed the left rear axle on my subcompact and found it sheared clean just where the splines begin. I need to know if there is any way to remove the splined end left in the tractor. It would save hours of transmission removal and tear down if I could somehow extract the splined end via the axle housing. Its about 10inches inside to the axle housing but it looks like it sheared fairly even with the bearing so I don't know how much there would be to grab onto. Any ideas??

Not knowing any tractor info would just be a shot in the dark.
But given that, pull other axle out, run something through and knock it out from other side. Although might not work on some tractors.
 
/ how to remove broken axle end
  • Thread Starter
#8  
Thanks so much for the excellent suggestions.

I will order a rare earth magnet. In the meantime I think I'll try the redneck way E/S suggests using a welding rod in pvc. That is truly ingenious. I usually have no problem getting a welding rod to stick when I don't want it to.
 
/ how to remove broken axle end
  • Thread Starter
#9  
Not knowing any tractor info would just be a shot in the dark.
But given that, pull other axle out, run something through and knock it out from other side. Although might not work on some tractors.

That's another good idea. I would have to catch it somehow but a magnet would work for that. I'm not sure if the differential is open to the other side but from the looks of the parts diagram I might be able to get a small rod thru. Thanks for the suggestion.
 
/ how to remove broken axle end #10  
FYI, he has a Cub 5252 and probably needs a maintenance manual.
 
/ how to remove broken axle end #11  
Thanks so much for the excellent suggestions.

I will order a rare earth magnet. In the meantime I think I'll try the redneck way E/S suggests using a welding rod in pvc. That is truly ingenious. I usually have no problem getting a welding rod to stick when I don't want it to.

When you weld onto the axle you will damage your bearings that are in the current path. I would use an alternate method.
I looked at the parts blow up view of this Cub 5252 and it looks like if you pull the axle out you will drop the axle spider gear hear is a link to the Messicks site with the view. TBN what is the concensus?
Messicks Excellent Parts system

Use the Transmission Drive Tab on the left of the screen.
 
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/ how to remove broken axle end #12  
I like the magnet best. I think if you had a piece of pvc that would let the broken part in and was small enough to slide into the hole, I would place that in first. If you pull it out with a magnet and it drops when it clears the carrier, you will be taking the top of the tranny off to get it out.

I have taken broken axles out of dumptrucks and one out of a landrover with a piece of wood.

if it is not broken completely flush and has enough material poking up, you can gently tap a round piece of wood onto it and slowly pull it out.
 
/ how to remove broken axle end #13  
Something holds the shaft in place inside. A keeper of some sort has got to be in there. Without knowing the tractor everything would be a guess. My guess is a groove with a keeper and bearings. Gotta open it up.
 
/ how to remove broken axle end #14  
you're going to want to open it up anyway to get the little pieces of metal out of the diff assembly; otherwise they'll stay there chewing up other expensive parts in an abrasive slurry of work hardened metal and oil.
simonmeridew
 
/ how to remove broken axle end #15  
The op posted 3 times with no info as to what model or make he had ,Royjackson had to give the info that the op didn't.Then DEX posted a link to the sight that breaks down the axle assy that clearly shows that if he removes the bearing the shaft will also come out and there is a snap ring holding the shaft behind the bearing.
When the info given in the first post is non existent how can a anyone give accurate advice.
GARBAGE IN GARBAGE OUT!
And I agree with Simon it should be taken apart and cleaned up.
 
/ how to remove broken axle end #16  
When you weld onto the axle you will damage your bearings that are in the current path. I would use an alternate method.
I looked at the parts blow up view of this Cub 5252 and it looks like if you pull the axle out you will drop the axle spider gear hear is a link to the Messicks site with the view. TBN what is the concensus?
Messicks Excellent Parts system

Use the Transmission Drive Tab on the left of the screen.

If you look at item 27 it has a ring retainer that probably pulls out with the axle shaft and I still wonder if the differential spider gears Items 35 and 36 would drop out of alignment if the axle is pulled out.
Blow up View
 
/ how to remove broken axle end #17  
FYI, he has a Cub 5252 and probably needs a maintenance manual.

Does this unit have "C" clip axles?
If so you will have to open the axle up to get it apart.

E/S
 
/ how to remove broken axle end #18  
Gears #37 will TEND to hold it(#35) in place.pasts 40-41 appear to hold the assembly in place. It really depends if retainer 27 holds the bearing or axle shaft in place.
 
/ how to remove broken axle end #19  
The op posted 3 times with no info as to what model or make he had ,Royjackson had to give the info that the op didn't.Then DEX posted a link to the sight that breaks down the axle assy that clearly shows that if he removes the bearing the shaft will also come out and there is a snap ring holding the shaft behind the bearing.
When the info given in the first post is non existent how can a anyone give accurate advice.
GARBAGE IN GARBAGE OUT!
And I agree with Simon it should be taken apart and cleaned up.

well.........maybe he was excited......and didnt think about it....took me about 3 seconds to look at his profile and see what kind of tractor he has. why try to belittle or embarrass someone because his post didn't meet your criteria?
 
/ how to remove broken axle end
  • Thread Starter
#20  
I went to Sears and got the heaviest magnetic pickup tool they had, 5lb pickup. I slid it in thru the axle housing and retrieved the splined end no problem. Very lucky that it wasn't stuck tight I guess. The break was completely clean with no pieces missing. Looks like the weld separated. I went ahead and replaced both axles with heavy duty ones. Only took about 30 minutes and it was back on it's wheels. Took much longer to refill the thing with oil.

Again, thanks to everyone offering suggestions for solving my problem.
 

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