Hydro's and brake pedals

[JoelD]

I use split brakes all the time when clearing snow or scooping soil or crushed stone from my driveway. Only way to steer with front wheels super light.

I would be lost without them.

Joel

 

[beenthere]

JB
I see no problem driving an auto tranny and using left foot for the brake. Whether it is on at the same time as accelerating, that is just an issue of skill. No offence that a traffic officer needs to be concerned about - IMO Seems officers have bigger fish to worry about, besides wearing car brake pads out faster.

This is an interesting thread.

 

[JDGreenGrass]

This is a good thread.

While we are on the topic of pedals, how about this.....My JD has a hand throttle and a foot throttle. I am horrible with the foot throttle. Every little bump I hit sort of rattles my foot on the pedal causing a jerking motion like to break my back.

Question....With these hydro pedals, are they easy to control or maintain speed when driving rough terrain.??

I solely use the hand throttle.

 

[dieselsmoke1]

My Mahindra 2810HST (rebranded TYM) has wheel brakes left, main brake right and separate hydro pedals right. Used them many times when I needed one rear to pull with the other braking.

 

[dieselsmoke1]

This is a good thread.

Question....With these hydro pedals, are they easy to control or maintain speed when driving rough terrain.?

Never been a problem on mine. I'd guess the hydro would dampen a shaking foot to some degree.

 

[JB4310]

Never been a problem on mine. I'd guess the hydro would dampen a shaking foot to some degree.

Yeah it's not really an issue. with the ehydro operating system there are added options. like setting the pedal reaction time to shorter or longer and another feature which I can't remember the name, where you set the max speed and no mater how far you push the pedal, even all the way down, you'll only go the preset speed you've chosen.

JB.

 

[stockton]

If you are a fair weather hobby farmer the placement of the brakes probably doesn't matter much. However, if you're going to use your tractor on hills, snow plowing, going up and down muddy trailers, using a backhoe, trying to get in and out of really tight situations,Doing a lot of fork work, any thing that requires accurate tractor positioning, you will appreciate the John Deere placement of the steering brakes. I do not know of any heavy equipment manufacture that does not use the John Deere system on their backhoes.
As far as the HST pedal systems go ---Kubota heel to toe and John Deere side by side their both good, to me the Kubota system feels more natural, and less chance of making a mistake in direction especially with multiple operators.

 

[archerm3]

I just have to say that I am amused, baffled, confused and dazed over this thread....

I never thought of it, never had to considering I have a standard shift BUT, to have the breaks on the same side as the treadle throws me for a loop.!! Useless is the proper word, as stated above.

How many feet do we have on our right side.??

Un-real.

This thread could go on for miles.....

Yes, because nobody can get on the brakes to stop it!

Hardyharhar

 

[JDGreenGrass]

Yeah it's not really an issue. with the ehydro operating system there are added options. like setting the pedal reaction time to shorter or longer and another feature which I can't remember the name, where you set the max speed and no mater how far you push the pedal, even all the way down, you'll only go the preset speed you've chosen.

JB.

There, I learned something today. Good stuff right there.

 

[JMER817]

Having the brakes on the right side on the Kubota was one of the things that steered me away from that brand and over to JD! I just don't understand it.

 

[jake98]

My Kioti still has the bolt in them. I asked the dealer after about a year and he shook his head, like 'don't unbolt them. I can't imagine using a hoe with them bolted tho.

I think the smaller footprint makes it less important, as well as the rear diff. lock. Having used heel, and toe brakes on rudder peddles, I can guarantee you guys, you'll like it either way. It's all good.

 

[schmism]

my TC33 has both hydro and breaks on the right side. but i also have cruise control which makes a hydro drive just like a gear tractor. (clutch on the left)


the only problem is for some reason they put a cruise control disable switch on the left break pedel. so you can turn right with the split brakes, but not left. so i moved the disable switch to the clutch were it should be. and i get proper stearing breaks then.

 

[FritzII]

I have to admit, I got real tired of the front of my BX going where it wanted to, when using the FEL. Looks like local dealers Deere and McCormick have the split brakes on the left ? This is going to narrow my search rather quickly.

 

[jake98]

Everything goes where it wants to when the front wheels are off the ground. You're not going to use the brakes while you're loading the bucket. (seems to me, anyway.)

 

[MossRoad]

We had a late 70s IH2500b that was a 50PTO HP 2WD tractor loader with HST. The split brake pedals are on the right, the two hydro direction pedals are on the left. A differential lock is behind the right heal. A foot throttle is to the left of the split brake pedals along the tranny tunnel (it was a low boy, so it had a high tranny tunnel) and it had the hand throttle that would stick where you set it. The split brake pedals had a latch that allowed you to lock the pedals together. The operator's manual said to ALWAYS lock the split brake pedals together when operating in high range. Why? Because if you are going along at 16MPH and accidentally hit one of the split brakes instead of both brakes, the tractor could suddenly and violently turn to one side and flop over on one side. I liked that tractor's pedal setup. I used the brakes when operating in close quarters on slopes. For instance, when going up hill to get something with the FEL that requires a gentle touch. There is that point on a hydro where the tractor will roll forwards or backward ever so slightly just enough to get you out of position. The brakes really help in those situations.

On our current tractor, we don't have any problems with the brake pedals being on the right or left or split or solid because we don't have ANY brake pedals on it! The right pedal goes forward. The left pedal goes backward. Its a treadle. I like that setup the best. However, I am told I will hate it should I bust a hyrdro hose while on a slope!

 

[polo1665]

Split brakes on the left and seperate forward and reverse hydro pedals on the right on my tractor. I use my FEL to clear snow from my drive in the winter. In float position the FEL lifts the front end just high enough to make steering difficult/impossible in slippery situations. Using the brakes to steer is my salvation. Put her in mid range, set the cruise control, and away I go. Don't even use the steering wheel when the bucket is down. Just have to tap the left or right brake pedal for directional adjustments. Couldn't imagine not having the use of the brakes to steer in this or other situations mentioned previously.

Mark

 

[iceman260]

Does your tractor have cruise control, put the cruise on and you can use individual braking.

 

[kennyd]

put the cruise on and you can use individual braking.

That just seems like such an oxymoron to me...Like Military Intelligence, Jumbo Shrimp, and other neat ones on THIS LIST.

 

[beenthere]

Today I had double pallets of dry firewood on my 3 ph, and needless to say, the snow blade on the front was barely doing its job of holding the front end down. Had to steer with the brakes, and the thought went through my head about being stuck with brakes on the right side. Would not have felt comfortable at all with my left foot over there too, or with the tractor in cruise (however, the cruise doesn't function in reverse). I had to come up a slight grade, so backed up to take advantage of the little extra weight on the front wheels.

I used to go to shows where NH and IH and Kubota had tractor displays, as well as Deere of course I found it interesting to look intently at the tractors with the brakes on the right side, along with the hydro pedals. Then get the varied excuses from the sales people about how handy they were. Most ended up saying that people don't use the l/r brakes anyway, and they are not needed. That is when I would wander off. My mission accomplished. (put a devil smiley here).

 

[pat32rf]

For some reason I don't remember the brake pedals on my old little BotaHS, but when I put the snowblower on my new JD4300hst I soon missed that clutch petal to feather the PTO....(I seem to remember a hand lever on the Bota as well)