MESSMAKER
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My truck and trailer are only over 10,000lb when hooked together, so can I post my numbers on my trailer since that is the only time I will need them?
Can you put your D.O.T. # on your trailer?
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No, they need to be on the tow vehicle.
QRTRHRS
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What is your tow vehicle registered at?
Couple of Achers
Gold Member
I'm not sure if this would help you are not. But you could put your numbers on a piece of that flexible magnetic sheet stuff. Then stick them on your doors when you are pulling the trailer and take them off when you are not.
OP
MESSMAKER
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I guess that is what I plan to do. I thought the reason it was on the tow vehicle was because a lot of times they pull different trailers so I thought putting it on the trailer could be a simple way to comply that did not rely on my memory.
Does it make a difference?
QRTRHRS
Elite Member
Qouting from KY's Transportation website; "US D.O.T. NUMBER: Required if you are operating vehicles with a gross vehicle weight rating or actual gross weight of 10,001 lbs. or above. In Kentucky, all vehicles plated at 10,000 lbs. and above are considered commercial. Some private farm plated vehicles also need a US D.O.T. number. Farm plated vehicles with the gross vehicle weight rating or actual gross weight of 10,001 lbs. or above operating interstate will need a US D.O.T. number. Intrastate farm plated vehicles with the gross vehicle weight rating or actual gross weight exceeding 26,000 lbs. will also need a US D.O.T. number. To obtain an application, please go to our Forms and Applications page, Section 2 Item Q, or call the applicable number:"
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General requirements and information
ｧ390.21 Marking of CMVs.
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Editor''s Note: Paragraph 390.21(a) below is effective until June 17, 2009.
(a) General. Every self-propelled CMV, as defined in ｧ390.5, subject to subchapter B of this chapter must be marked as specified in paragraphs (b), (c), and (d) of this section.
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(b) Nature of marking. The marking must display the following information:
(b)(1) The legal name or a single trade name of the motor carrier operating the self-propelled CMV, as listed on the motor carrier identification report (Form MCS-150) and submitted in accordance with ｧ390.19.
Editor''s Note: Paragraph 390.21(b)(2) below is effective until June 17, 2009.
(2) The motor carrier identification number issued by the FMCSA, preceded by the letters 填SDOT?
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(b)(3) If the name of any person other than the operating carrier appears on the CMV, the name of the operating carrier must be followed by the information required by paragraphs (b)(1), and (2) of this section, and be preceded by the words 登perated by.
(b)(4) Other identifying information may be displayed on the vehicle if it is not inconsistent with the information required by this paragraph.
(b)(5) Each motor carrier shall meet the following requirements pertaining to its operation:
(b)(5)(i) All CMVs that are part of a motor carrier痴 existing fleet on July 3, 2000, and which are marked with an ICCMC number must come into compliance with paragraph (b)(2) of this section by July 3, 2002.
(b)(5)(ii) All CMVs that are part of a motor carrier痴 existing fleet on July 3, 2000, and which are not marked with the legal name or a single trade name on both sides of their CMVs, as shown on the Motor Carrier Identification Report, Form MCS-150, must come into compliance with paragraph (b)(1) of this section by July 5, 2005.
(b)(5)(iii) All CMVs added to a motor carrier痴 fleet on or after July 3, 2000, must meet the requirements of this section before being put into service and operating on public ways.
(c) Size, shape, location, and color of marking. The marking must
(c)(1) Appear on both sides of the self-propelled CMV;
(c)(2) Be in letters that contrast sharply in color with the background on which the letters are placed;
(c)(3) Be readily legible, during daylight hours, from a distance of 50 feet (15.24 meters) while the CMV is stationary; and
(c)(4) Be kept and maintained in a manner that retains the legibility required by paragraph (c)(3) of this section.
(d) Construction and durability. The marking may be painted on the CMV or may consist of a removable device, if that device meets the identification and legibility requirements of paragraph (c) of this section, and such marking must be maintained as required by paragraph (c)(4) of this section.
ｧ390.21 Marking of CMVs.
[Change Notice]
[New Text]
Editor''s Note: Paragraph 390.21(a) below is effective until June 17, 2009.
(a) General. Every self-propelled CMV, as defined in ｧ390.5, subject to subchapter B of this chapter must be marked as specified in paragraphs (b), (c), and (d) of this section.
[Change Notice]
[New Text]
(b) Nature of marking. The marking must display the following information:
(b)(1) The legal name or a single trade name of the motor carrier operating the self-propelled CMV, as listed on the motor carrier identification report (Form MCS-150) and submitted in accordance with ｧ390.19.
Editor''s Note: Paragraph 390.21(b)(2) below is effective until June 17, 2009.
(2) The motor carrier identification number issued by the FMCSA, preceded by the letters 填SDOT?
[Change Notice]
[New Text]
(b)(3) If the name of any person other than the operating carrier appears on the CMV, the name of the operating carrier must be followed by the information required by paragraphs (b)(1), and (2) of this section, and be preceded by the words 登perated by.
(b)(4) Other identifying information may be displayed on the vehicle if it is not inconsistent with the information required by this paragraph.
(b)(5) Each motor carrier shall meet the following requirements pertaining to its operation:
(b)(5)(i) All CMVs that are part of a motor carrier痴 existing fleet on July 3, 2000, and which are marked with an ICCMC number must come into compliance with paragraph (b)(2) of this section by July 3, 2002.
(b)(5)(ii) All CMVs that are part of a motor carrier痴 existing fleet on July 3, 2000, and which are not marked with the legal name or a single trade name on both sides of their CMVs, as shown on the Motor Carrier Identification Report, Form MCS-150, must come into compliance with paragraph (b)(1) of this section by July 5, 2005.
(b)(5)(iii) All CMVs added to a motor carrier痴 fleet on or after July 3, 2000, must meet the requirements of this section before being put into service and operating on public ways.
(c) Size, shape, location, and color of marking. The marking must
(c)(1) Appear on both sides of the self-propelled CMV;
(c)(2) Be in letters that contrast sharply in color with the background on which the letters are placed;
(c)(3) Be readily legible, during daylight hours, from a distance of 50 feet (15.24 meters) while the CMV is stationary; and
(c)(4) Be kept and maintained in a manner that retains the legibility required by paragraph (c)(3) of this section.
(d) Construction and durability. The marking may be painted on the CMV or may consist of a removable device, if that device meets the identification and legibility requirements of paragraph (c) of this section, and such marking must be maintained as required by paragraph (c)(4) of this section.
note the use of "self-propelled", must be on the truck.
KeithInSpace
Veteran Member
Is that GVWR or GCVWR? Not many non-commercial trucks are rated for more than 10k lbs. But there are lots and lots of trucks that have COMBINED weight rating over 10k lbs...my Expedition included.
Generally these regulations are for vehicles with a 10k# GVWR (the truck) and/or a GCVWR (truck and trailer) of over 26k#.
Am I barking up the right tree?
OP
MESSMAKER
Veteran Member
I think it is GCVWR. 6000lb truck +7500lb trailer = DOT