New Implement Shed

[damartin]

Hello all, I have not posted for awhile because I've been busy. I got a new to me Timberking sawmill a few months ago and I have been working on an implement shed with the Hemlock lumber that I milled. The shed is 24' x 16' and 10' tall. I bought treated 4" x 6"s for the poles and treated 2" x 6"s for the bottom nailers but the rest of the lumber was cut onsite and milled with the new sawmill. The Hemlock trees are all dying so I have all the wood I want on the 92 acres were I have my cabin. I am planning to install a garage door and inside wall on 1/3 of the shed for the tractor, the other 2 bays will be open on 1 side for implements.
I also plan on building a pole barn to keep the sawmill in. The pole barn for the sawmill will be 30' x 40' with 20' rolling doors on 1 side to roll logs into the mill. I am planning to use Sonotubes and concrete for the sawmill shed so I won't have to buy treated lumber for the posts. I will have some questions when I start on the sawmill shed, the first one being, what are your thoughts on using trusses for the roof, I was thinking of using atic trusses in order to have some area for storage. Stick built with joists would be cheaper because the lumber is free but trusses may be a much simpler way to finish the roof. I was planning to use 6" x 6" posts every 8' with two 2" x 10" perlins to support the trusses and three 2" x 12"s reinforced with plywood for the 20' span where the big doors are located. If anyone has some better ideas let me know, thanks. I am attaching some pictures of the shed that I am currently building. I'm about out of hemlock siding so I need to cut some more trees and mill some more lumber, not a bad problem to have.

 

[Harvey7]

Having a saw mill with free logs is a wonderful thing, your set up looks great.

 

[EddieWalker]

Very impressive. I've often dreamed of having my own sawmill. I think that with owning land and plenty of trees, that it's the perfect way to spend your time.

Thanks for the picture, and please keep them coming.

Eddie

 

[jayste]

Very nice setup. I really like the looks of that building as well. Yes, keep those pics coming!

 

[theboman]

Looks great!

I'm hoping to start building my shed in the next week or two (the darn truck thing is takin' a toll on my life right now...in the shop since 6/25 and still no motor!).

I was impressed with the saw mill operation and operator that I had here to cut my logs
for my shed. I want one too! Guess, I gotta sell a lot of houses first.
BO-DADDY was a sawmill man

 

[have_blue]

That wood is almost too pretty to go on a shed. It should be in my den!

 

[hobie]

Very cool! Love to see the sawmill stuff! Great to see the wood being used that way. I look forward to seeing the pics of the shed. Brian

 

[Johndeere3720]

Looks good. Ive been helping my grandpa build barns for the summer and have learned a lot. The biggest one ive helped build was a horse arena that was 80' wide and 210' long. Last week was a 30'x40' shop. Today is my day off since They are putting metal on the roof and since I dont loke going on the roof, I took the day off. Oh, are you going to seal the wood siding?

 

[damartin]

Thanks for the comments, I didn't get any pictures this weekend but maybe I'll get some next weekend. We got the gable end finished and about 1/3 of the back side, including a door and 1 window. We also wired in a few recepticals and lights. Eddie I want to mention that I read most of your creating a lake thread and enjoyed it very much.
I am totally out of siding boards now and I guess I'll be cutting trees this weekend and getting them ready to be milled. The tree cutting and milling is the fun part for me so I'm looking forward to it. I don't know if I'll seal the wood or not, from what I have read the Hemlock will do well with no sealer as long as it doesn't touch the ground. I also read somewere on the internet that used transmission fluid will do well to preserve the wood. Any opinions?
Thanks again for the comments and I'll try to get a few pictures this weekend.

 

[sld]

Great looking shed and awesome source of wood.

The tranny fluid might work but that wood is too nice to put crap like that on it. If you are going to seal it, do it with something made for it. You could just let it age and see how it does for a couple of years. You can always pressure wash and stain / seal later if it is needed.

Keep the pics coming.

 

[nickel plate]

What a great project! Your own trees, your own sawmill producing your own timbers and board stock. I do have a question/suggestion: Does the verticle siding have a lap or T&G edge? If not and they are in fact just square butted, are you or should I say please batt (1x3, 1x4 verticle battens) at each butt joint. This proceedure will require a lot of horizontal nailing/blocking but years out-way worth it. You stated that the used tree stock was dying-dead but how dry are-were the boards after milling? You might want to wait as long as the warm weather cycles to air dry the nailed siding and then batt the joints before your wet and cold weather sets in. Please keep up this thread, we want to see the tractor in it's bay and your implements on the other side. Good job.

 

[damartin]

I got some trees cut and milled this weekend with the help of my neighbor and brother in law. I now have enough boards to finish the shed, just need the time to do it. I took some pictures showing the work that we did last weekend and the tree cutting/milling this weekend. We also spread the stones for the floor with the FEL and now the shed it is actually usable. The tractor is now in it's new home but I didn't put the impliments in yet. I got to use the Tajfun winch to haul the 6 Hemlock trees up a very steep hill and it worked very well. The heaviest log that I hauled up the hill was 29" at the butt end and 30' long. I am amazed that the winch can haul that up a steep hill with my small John Deere 790 tractor as the power source. Nickel Plate, the boards aren't butted, they are overlapped 1/2" on each side in/out/in/out so they can shrink alot without exposing any gaps. My wife took a short video of the winch hauling a log up the hill but I'm not sure I can post it due to it's size. If anyone knows how to post the video let me know.

 

[sld]

Man, that is awesome!

Harvesting and cutting your own wood to size is just too cool.

As a woodworker, I am just hoping you don't douse the whole thing with used tranny fluid. What did you decide for a stain / sealer?

 

[netwayne]

That shed is coming along really nice. Like the color of the metal roof. We have that same color scheme going on with a new barn put up. Our roof is metal and cranberry colored. We are going to do some cranberry trim paint as well but right now we have painted our fascia the exterior paint color (light beige) but now looking at your berry colored fascia......hmmm might have to change it.

Anyway, nice job with your project. Looks great!!

 

[FxdGrMind]

Awsome project!!! I'm completely GREEN with envy and my tractor is Kubota Orange....

If you don't mind my asking, what did the mill set you back and how much for the 3pt.winch/tree dragger?

Love the look!

 

[theboman]

I'd love a mill!! They are affordable too. I want a Wood-Mizer, BAD! Check out the Forest Forum for lots of info. http://www.forestryforum.com/index.php

I haven't started my shed yet...it's gonna be soon! Got the spot nearly ready. Most the poles are cut. I just need to get my butt in gear..BTW, the darn $7k engine is being put in my truck now....going on 7 weeks...

BO-DADDY was a sawmill man

 

[studor]

Very Nice!
I was wondering about your technique of overlapping (In-out) and why you chose that over a board and batten approach. Do you fasten the boards to each other at all or just to the stringers? When I bought my place one of the outbuilding had been built with green lumber butted tight - after a year it had some fairly large gaps that we covered with battens. I am just about to close in the back of an old barn and looking at your pictures has me thinking

 

[Builder]

Thanks for the comments, I didn't get any pictures this weekend but maybe I'll get some next weekend. We got the gable end finished and about 1/3 of the back side, including a door and 1 window. We also wired in a few recepticals and lights. Eddie I want to mention that I read most of your creating a lake thread and enjoyed it very much.
I am totally out of siding boards now and I guess I'll be cutting trees this weekend and getting them ready to be milled. The tree cutting and milling is the fun part for me so I'm looking forward to it. I don't know if I'll seal the wood or not, from what I have read the Hemlock will do well with no sealer as long as it doesn't touch the ground. I also read somewere on the internet that used transmission fluid will do well to preserve the wood. Any opinions?
Thanks again for the comments and I'll try to get a few pictures this weekend.

Great job.

I remember cutting down 20 walnut trees on a property I owned and sawmilling them into hardwood flooring. We even made dowel pegs with shims. Nothing's cooler than building something with wood taken from your own land!

On preserving the wood, you could spray it with anything from linseed oil to CWF. There's a ton of choices. Just put it in a pump sprayer and flood the wood then roll it out smooth real quick with a paint roller & extension handle. One thing Iwould encourage is to let the wood "season" a little so the water dries out of it. Vertical baords never hold water for long, so as long as your rake fascia covers the top edges of the boards and you keep them up at least 6-8" off the ground, that will help. If possible, treat the tips and the backs before installing.

 

[Builder]

Very Nice!
I was wondering about your technique of overlapping (In-out) and why you chose that over a board and batten approach. Do you fasten the boards to each other at all or just to the stringers? When I bought my place one of the outbuilding had been built with green lumber butted tight - after a year it had some fairly large gaps that we covered with battens. I am just about to close in the back of an old barn and looking at your pictures has me thinking

The board/batten approach allows the edges of the wood to shrink/expand and if 1x2 furring strips are placed behind the boards, it allows use of 3/4" rigid styrofaom insulation for additional R values.

 

[damartin]

SLD I will probably wait a few years before I seal the wood, I don't know what I'll use for a sealer. I hear that Hemlock weathers well without any sealer especialy when it is installed vertically. The saw mill is a Timber King B20 and It cost a little less than 17,000 used, it is a 2002 model. There are many used models that are less money but I wanted all hydraulic controls in order to save my back. There is no specific reason that I overlapped the boards other than I like the way it looks. I nailed the inner boards in the center and tried to catch the edge of the inner boards when nailing the outer boards at their edges. The boards were still very green when nailed in place and so far there is no problem with splitting due to shrinking while drying.
Builder I removed a Walnut tree by the roots to make room for the shed, I plan to mill the root ball to get some nice burl wood. Thanks for all the comments and for the good information that I have been getting from this site.