york rake behind a jeep

[SalvageTitleTJ]

York rake behind a jeep, looking for some thoughts.

My Idea: A 12volt pump powering a dual action piston, 2 or 3 way valve with float. Mounting cylinder to the top of the rake and traingulating supports off of the lower points.
I would like to mount the cylinder higher for ease of attachment points as well as keeping the pump inside the Jeep.
Ultimately just want them to raise up and down apply a small amount of down pressure when neccessary as well as float for final scrapes. Only other added benefit would be holding capacity of the cylinder in the up position for some other bad ideas later down the road.
Any suggestions on pumps? cylinders? valves? or any other better ideas in general.
I would mount them on a tractor if had one these implements where left behind left bhind at a home I just purchased.

 

[tommu56]

Just this weekend I got behind a twp truck pulling a wheeled york rake grading a Forrest road.

It had a axle behind it and 3 levers on it it looked if it would tilt side to side and lift up the angle looked to be fixed and a regular pintle hitch on the front.

I would look at some thing like this or rig it up like that then it could be towed by about any thing.

tom

 

[RobS]

Some time back I saw a video ad for a rake on the FRONT of a truck/jeep/tractor. Had wheels in front of the rake and it mounted to a snowplow frame. Raising/lowering the plow cylinder affected the depth of the rake. Looked like a slick setup. One line I remember from their pitch is "Rake fast and rake often". Referring to maintenance of dirt roads.

 

[SalvageTitleTJ]

I have heard of the plow style ones as well, and I do have a plow setup. I am hoping for a higher lifting angle then those can offer. Jeeps being so short also have counterweight issues pretty quick with to much wieght up front.

 

[SalvageTitleTJ]

It is also a wheel less landpride rake, and a scraper they are not "york". with a good set up was going to invest in a scarifier as well.

 

[gordyy]

I have a 53 willy's jeep in the shop in the middle of a rebuild with a pto and a 3 point on it
an old farmer friend used to use to pull a swather and used it in the last of its life to run a grain auger off the pto
easy on fuel and you could get home at 50 mph (ok at 50 the easy on fuel goes out the window)

 

[ToadHill]

Before Land Rover became a status symbol it was a real work vehicle with a hole in the rear bumper for a driveshaft to run things like mowers and balers, and places to hitch actual farm equipment. I had a 1960 LR and it could be used much like a tractor.

 

[SalvageTitleTJ]

There are no adapters to fit willy's transfercases with pto's into the newer wranglers. but those old jeeps came with all sorts of farming attachments on them. Thats how they kept the brand alive after the war.

 

[lhfarm]

There are no adapters to fit willy's transfercases with pto's into the newer wranglers. but those old jeeps came with all sorts of farming attachments on them. Thats how they kept the brand alive after the war.

See the Web page in my signature for some history of the "Farm Jeep". One of the "features" of the early jeep was the gas tank under the driver's seat which left room in the rear for the PTO shaft and even the lift.

I wonder if anyone here has built a tow behind 3pt lift like the one on this page CadPlans Corporation - 3 Point Hitch. I built a portable hydraulic pump that I can throw in the bed of the jeep that I use with my dump wagon.

 

[SalvageTitleTJ]

I had already looked at FarmJeep and loved it!!!!!!!!!!!!
I used to work for a shop specializing in jeeps. I had even been in contact with them trying locate an old Stratton system to modify. Unfortantely New Hampshire is the heart of the rust belt so rare becomes really rare here. Used to have an old 67 Kaiser M715 5/4 ton truck with gaint pto's and pumps all over it. Kinda wish I still had that right now. Always nice to see another "JEEP" or "WILLY'S" restorer.

 

[SalvageTitleTJ]

More detailed idea:

12volt horizontal pump similar to one on surplus center part# 9-7413 for a dual acting cylinder mounted behind the rear seat. Then affix a cylinder from the top of the rather beefy bumper I have on the Jeep to the top mount of a Land Pride rake. Letting the two lower points act as the hinge. I chose this a possible option of how perfectly the height of the rake and bumper line up for welding the attachment points and bracing.

If the above seams plausible the parts I could use even more recommendations on are;

-Solenoid or lever?
If possible a solenoid controlled joystick, so I would only be running wires to where I would like to mount the joystick.
-Having the ability to 吐loat is also essential.
-Down pressure would be nice
-Check valves for holding in the up position
-Cross tube cylinder ends would appear to fit rather easily into the upper mounts of the rake. Would running spherical rod ends be more forgiving?
-Land Pride model 1560 Rake weighs 241 pounds

Thanks for all the help!!!

 

[lhfarm]

More detailed idea:

12volt horizontal pump similar to one on surplus center part# 9-7413 for a dual acting cylinder mounted behind the rear seat. Then affix a cylinder from the top of the rather beefy bumper I have on the Jeep to the top mount of a Land Pride rake. Letting the two lower points act as the hinge. I chose this a possible option of how perfectly the height of the rake and bumper line up for welding the attachment points and bracing.

If the above seams plausible the parts I could use even more recommendations on are;

-Solenoid or lever?
If possible a solenoid controlled joystick, so I would only be running wires to where I would like to mount the joystick.
-Having the ability to 吐loat is also essential.
-Down pressure would be nice
-Check valves for holding in the up position
-Cross tube cylinder ends would appear to fit rather easily into the upper mounts of the rake. Would running spherical rod ends be more forgiving?
-Land Pride model 1560 Rake weighs 241 pounds

Thanks for all the help!!!

I've always thought the Monroe lift was modeled off of a Ford 8N tractor. You can see the parts here http://www.farmjeep.com/img/lifts/monroe/Monroe Hydraulic Lift Parts List.pdf I had even thought about going to TSC and buying the replacement arms and links, but then found a complete lift. I wonder if you could do a modern version of the Monroe lift that would slide in/out of the rear, with a 12v hydraulic pump?

 

[SalvageTitleTJ]

Only reason I was thinking stratton style was to retain the use of the back seat and storage area. The jeep is a big ugly salvage title, but perfectly safe and and legal to drive down the road serving many other purposes as well. You might be starting to sway me though I am off to my old jeep shop for some other parts and have printed some of your items on the monroe lift.
After I decide on the system I am going to use would the people in the hydraulics thread be able to point me in the right direction on a modern 12 volt pump.
Thanks for keeping the ideas flowing.

 

[Wis Bang]

During the early 60's my dad helped a co-worker do a truck garden behind his orchard. The guy had a Farmall cub which had a plow and cultivator set. He had a tow behind disc set that was too big for the cub so they pulled it w/ his old flat fender willys jeep. They also used the jeep to pull the potato digger too. It wasn't a 'farm' jeep...

I had a '62 CJ5 w/ the PTO mount covered w/ a plate and the round hole thru the cross members for the PTO shaft. Any Jeep w/ the twin stick transfer case [in/out & HI-N-LO] was able to have a PTO.

I remember seeing a guy w/ a farm jeep and sickle bar cutting fields along the highway in the 70s...

 

[stowester]

What does the PTO do on a york rake?

Dean

 

[lhfarm]

Only reason I was thinking stratton style was to retain the use of the back seat and storage area. The jeep is a big ugly salvage title, but perfectly safe and and legal to drive down the road serving many other purposes as well. You might be starting to sway me though I am off to my old jeep shop for some other parts and have printed some of your items on the monroe lift.
After I decide on the system I am going to use would the people in the hydraulics thread be able to point me in the right direction on a modern 12 volt pump.
Thanks for keeping the ideas flowing.

We like the Newgren for the same reason of keeping the bed open. I didn't ask the year of the jeep, but if there is room under the bed, the underbed design is the way to go. I had a guy borrow the Newgren to have a copy made. It is a pretty simple construction. You can't tell it from the original.
The hydraulic forum is a great place to go for advice.