Generic part numbers for service

[Sackett2]

anyone have the generic parts list for oil, fuel, air and hyd. filters?

 

[Maka]

Oil filter
Donaldson----P550162

Hydraulic
Wix----------51715
LuberFiner----LAF8207

Air I believe is
Donaldson------P821575 Sure of it but open yours and it should be on the filter.

Don't have a cross for the fuel right now.

Thanks,
Maka

 

[Sackett2]

OK, Called my parts house, he crossed over the Donaldson to the Wix for me (and us) so here is a revised number list:





Oil filter
Wix----------51334
Donaldson----P550162

Hydraulic
Wix----------51715
LuberFiner----LAF8207

Air I believe is (Sure of it but open yours and it should be on the filter).
Wix------------46438
Donaldson------P821575

 

[skipro3]

On that air filter part #....

I found this site where there seems that many tractor manufacturers use a secondary inner filter;
Manufacturer Information

The filter:
Manufacturer Information

I wonder if it will fit our tractors and if we should be using it.

 

[Sackett2]

I'm gonna research that some more, after the hunting trip. As much dust as I got into this summer, I think extra wouldent hurt.

 

[Maka]

OK, Montana used to use an inner and an outter filter on the compacts. Every machine had both but about 2 years ago when we started to PDI some machines we found only the outter filter. I contacted Montana and asked where the other filter was and was told that LG/LS had sent out a memo that an inner was no not necessary. They never had a problem and removing the inner gave better performance with .

I have this product notice here in front of me.

The product notice I got on this was dated May 22nd 2006 and for all the previous models incl, 2740, 3040, 3840, 4540,4340 and 4340C ,4940 and 4940C and 5740 and 5740C.

I think although we now have the new models like the 4344 etc. that the bulleting is still applicable. I will check and let you all know but I am 99.5% confident no inner air filter anymore.

Maka

 

[skipro3]

Hi Maka,

Would you know the primary filter particle filtering size? (Did I even say that right?) I don't mind running an inner filter if it keeps from dusting the motor, even if it affects HP a little. I have very dusty conditions sometimes. We call it moon dust, it's so fine and deep. Like talcum powder.

Also, do you know a part # for the fuel filter?

Thanks!
Jerry

 

[skipro3]

Bump...

Anyone have a fuel filter part # for WIX or any other Generic?

Also, what oil and how much to use for:
1. Front end
2. Engine
3. HST transmission

Finally;
Can anyone point out where to find the drain plugs and fill points for all these things? Photos?

Thanks!

(How was the hunting trip?)

 

[gemini5362]

My napa store here has a tractor section I asked them if they had part numbers for things for a montana and they had a fuel and oil filter number. You might check with a Napa store in your area and see what they have.

 

[Sackett2]

dug most of it out of the owners manual.
ft end is between 2 and 2.5 gallons of standard gear oil
hyd and hst are one and the same; my supplier will get me "Hyd Tractor Oil"; meets requirements in hyd and hst systems, its used at all the big equipment dealerships here (Pape' Cat)

 

[skipro3]

I've got my filters, now I need the oil. Can anyone recommend a brand? I've been thinking I'll use SuperTech Tractor and Hydraulic Transmission Oil from Wal-mart.

 

[JackMentink]

I used the supertech on my gear oil. As far as hydraulic oil I used a local tractor stores brand as theirs was less than Walmart.I don't see alot of difference in the hydraulic oils. I paid 19.99 per 2.5 gallon container. It was a useable size to put into the tractor also. Make sure you use the tractor for an hour or so to get the hydralic oil good and warm so it flows out.

Now as far as crank case oil I did switch to to synthetic. I've used synthetic for several year in all my vehicles. The diesel version of the synthetic is very expensive though. $5.77 a quart at walmart.

 

[skipro3]

Thanks Jack, I also use synth for my motors. I have a diesel truck so I'll stick with the brand I'm using for that. I'll see what my local tractor dealer wants for tractor oil and if they can beat Walmart. I thought they sold the tractor oil in 5 gallon buckets for about $35 there; $7 per gallon.

So, anyone else have a thought on the oil? Tranny/hydraulic, engine, front end, even the grease fitting lube?
Cheers!

 

[Sackett2]

my supplier said over 60 dollars for a 5 gallon pail; i'll have to go look at the farm store also.

 

[skipro3]

Air I believe is
Donaldson------P821575 Sure of it but open yours and it should be on the filter.

Don't have a cross for the fuel right now.

Thanks,
Maka

Boy was that wrong! You recommended I check but I didn't; just trusted you knew what you were talking about. My 4344 filter part # is P822768, not P821575 which is a much smaller filter. Oh, well. It's only money I guess.

Also, the owner manual speaks very specifically of the second air filter that fits inside the primary air filter. Upon inspection of my air filter, it is VERY obvious that there is dirt/dust on the inside of the element. This has me extremely upset and concerned that I have dusted my engine.


One last thing; What should the condition of the transmission/hydraulic oil look like at the 50 hour service and for that matter, the engine oil as well? I have a diesel engine truck and the oil goes very black in only a few hours of operation. My tractor engine oil is a golden honey color and the transmission/hydraulic oil looks as clean and clear as the new oil I am replacing it with. It sure seems a waste to toss out such clean looking oils...

 

[skipro3]

Donaldson p822768
Fram Ca9246
WIX 46489
NAPA 6489

 

[JackMentink]

I checked around a little more for the air filter as the first price I Got on the wix was $35. I Was a6t O'reilly Auto parts which are popular auto parts stores here in Missouri. I had them see what it crossed to. They came up with a Pro-line 7-093998 (which is normally theri lawn & garden line) THEY ORDERED ONE and it came in one day and it is a perfect match. Looking at it closely it is a Donaldson P821575. So I got the donaldson filter for about $17 Check around for these things they vary in cost tremendously.

 

[skipro3]

Good find there Jack!

Anyone have a lead on the fuel filter?

Oh, BTW, I highly recommend the inner air filter that Montana has decided isn't needed any more. It's obviously a much better deal and my stock filter had dust on the inside of it when I replaced it a few weeks ago, so I know an inner filter will do a job.

 

[Maka]

Oooops, this is old and did not see but still ok for a response

Yes, I did recommed checking, sorry you got the wrong one. Did you get it taken care of?

Maka

Please see next post on air filters

Boy was that wrong! You recommended I check but I didn't; just trusted you knew what you were talking about. My 4344 filter part # is P822768, not P821575 which is a much smaller filter. Oh, well. It's only money I guess.

Also, the owner manual speaks very specifically of the second air filter that fits inside the primary air filter. Upon inspection of my air filter, it is VERY obvious that there is dirt/dust on the inside of the element. This has me extremely upset and concerned that I have dusted my engine.


One last thing; What should the condition of the transmission/hydraulic oil look like at the 50 hour service and for that matter, the engine oil as well? I have a diesel engine truck and the oil goes very black in only a few hours of operation. My tractor engine oil is a golden honey color and the transmission/hydraulic oil looks as clean and clear as the new oil I am replacing it with. It sure seems a waste to toss out such clean looking oils...

 

[Maka]

Here is the info on the inner/safety filter.

Maka

Boy was that wrong! You recommended I check but I didn't; just trusted you knew what you were talking about. My 4344 filter part # is P822768, not P821575 which is a much smaller filter. Oh, well. It's only money I guess.

Also, the owner manual speaks very specifically of the second air filter that fits inside the primary air filter. Upon inspection of my air filter, it is VERY obvious that there is dirt/dust on the inside of the element. This has me extremely upset and concerned that I have dusted my engine.


One last thing; What should the condition of the transmission/hydraulic oil look like at the 50 hour service and for that matter, the engine oil as well? I have a diesel engine truck and the oil goes very black in only a few hours of operation. My tractor engine oil is a golden honey color and the transmission/hydraulic oil looks as clean and clear as the new oil I am replacing it with. It sure seems a waste to toss out such clean looking oils...