why doesn't clutch work on 1010?

[rmg]

why doesn't clutch work on my 1010? I worked on the road most of last year, so 1010 sat. Now when I try to put tsmn in gear while the clutch pedal is depressed, all I get is horrendous grinding. If I then kill the tractor and restart it in gear, it will move but will not stop when I depress the clutch. what is wrong?

 

[SPYDERLK]

why doesn't clutch work on my 1010? I worked on the road most of last year, so 1010 sat. Now when I try to put tsmn in gear while the clutch pedal is depressed, all I get is horrendous grinding. If I then kill the tractor and restart it in gear, it will move but will not stop when I depress the clutch. what is wrong?

Clutch plate is stuck. Start it in 3rd and bump a tree with clutch depressed and about 1200 rpm. Should break free or stall safely. Worked 1st try on my 2010.
larry

 

[rmg]

Spyderlk, Thanks for reply. Will first have to figure out how to get 1010 to nearest tree. Should I bump the front end of my tractor against the tree, how far should tractor be from tree, and how fast is 1200 rpm? Gauges have never worked since I bought this tractor. Should I set throttle lever at a slow, medium, or fast speed? Front end of tractor has a homemade welded grille guard bolted to lower part of front of engine.

 

[SPYDERLK]

Spyderlk, Thanks for reply. Will first have to figure out how to get 1010 to nearest tree. Should I bump the front end of my tractor against the tree, how far should tractor be from tree, and how fast is 1200 rpm? Gauges have never worked since I bought this tractor. Should I set throttle lever at a slow, medium, or fast speed? Front end of tractor has a homemade welded grille guard bolted to lower part of front of engine.

Hmmm. 2010 has set of front weights that act as a very robust bumper. Maybe you shouldnt run into a tree with yours. Id try it by using a good chain to pull against a tree too big to pull. Chain from the drawbar to tree with plenty of slack. Be sure to tape or tie the hooks to keep them in place. Start tractor in gear and run to the end of the chain with the chutch depressed. 1200rpm is a little up from your normal low idle. Use that approx speed so you have some torque. If the 1010 is an 8speed use about 3rd gear so the groundspeed with be low, and the engine will stall without a wheelie if the clutch doesnt let go. You could probably even rig this to work with you not even being on the tractor. That would keep you out of the way if something should go wrong with the chain or tree.. It should break free quite readily as it stalls. But you want to be safe.
larry

 

[Kamik]

My brother-in-law was given the same advice for his 4020 - bump a tree. So he tried it and ended up bashing in the nose, wrinkling all the sheet metal. And on top of that, getting it stuck in the mud tight up against the tree!

Luckily, BIL was able to have his neighbor pull it out of the mud with his skip-loader. But he had to pay for it to be hauled to the nearest dealership and split in half so the parts could be replaced.

Later he said the joy of driving it the 23 miles to home and finally getting a start on the field that waited all summer to be mowed erased the pain of spending all that money. Well, mostly!

Kamik

 

[rmg]

I was going to bump tractor against tree tomorrow. Maybe not now. Biggest problem I can see is getting tractor down to nearest tree and stopping it close enough (maybe 6 inches??) without crashing into tree. This sounds alot safer than chaining backend of tractor to tree. Why is the clutch sticking to begin with? Will it stick in the future? Need to try something. I don't know how I will get it in trailer to take to mechanic without a catastrophe. This 1010 has 5 forward gears and 1 reverse. If I try tree route, I think I will use 3rd gear at a low rpm. I think that should die rather easily.

 

[SPYDERLK]

I was going to bump tractor against tree tomorrow. Maybe not now. Biggest problem I can see is getting tractor down to nearest tree and stopping it close enough (maybe 6 inches??) without crashing into tree. This sounds alot safer than chaining backend of tractor to tree. Why is the clutch sticking to begin with? Will it stick in the future? Need to try something. I don't know how I will get it in trailer to take to mechanic without a catastrophe. This 1010 has 5 forward gears and 1 reverse. If I try tree route, I think I will use 3rd gear at a low rpm. I think that should die rather easily.

Why dont you just start it in gear and drive to the tree? If you are going to bump it you must be pretty darn sure the front bumper area is strong where it will hit the tree - you may have to extend a stong portion forward beyond a weak area to be sure it is what hits. You drive straight into the tree going slowly under power with the clutch depressed. You dont stop the tractor - the tree does. 3rd on a 5 speed may be a little fast at 1200rpm. Might want to use 2nd gear...
Clutches stick from inactivity - the contacting plates, humidity, a little rust...STUCK. Often a good quick stalling load is all it takes to get them loose.
larry

 

[rmg]

If we hadn't worked over today, I would have tried bumping the tree. Instead of actually driving from a distance towards a tree and then crashing into the tree at a run, I planned on driving close to the tree, killing the tractor by turning off the key, then positioning the tractor within a few inches of the tree and restarting the tractor in gear with the clutch pedal depressed. Don't you think that would be better for my tractor and my safety? Hopefully just a little bump is all I need. 2nd gear sounds good to me.

 

[rmg]

well I got out this evening & smacked 1010 against tree 3 times before the clutch apparently freed itself. Mowed the ditch out front once and then decided to go over it again since it was so tall. Before finishing, I tried to shift gears a couple of times and got alot of grinding which apparently means the clutch was sticking again? When I pulled in gate and stopped to close gate, I got back on tractor to take off, tried to put it in gear but clutch must have been stuck again because I got the most awful grinding from transmission. Got back around to tree I had bumped it against earlier and had to bump the tree again in order to back 1010 under the carport where it is kept. What can I do to keep the clutch from sticking?

 

[rmg]

what can I do to keep my clutch from sticking on my 1010?

 

[SPYDERLK]

what can I do to keep my clutch from sticking on my 1010?

Yours is sticking a lot more than I had anticipated. Usually you free em and theyre ok til they get parked again a long time. After freeing it the 1st time I would expect you could re-break it loose easy with engine power by accelerating with clutch depressed in high gear. Is the clutch grabby or does it work normally when not stuck??
I would definitely park your tractor with the clutch depressed. Maybe it will improve slowly. Pls post back as it develops.
larry

 

[jd110]

It is also possible that some clutch lining tore loose from the disk when it was broke loose the first time. The loose lining can bunch up and cause it not to release also. If it will not stay free, I think you will need to split the tractor and replace the clutch.

 

[rmg]

Just mowed again. Yes, clutch is sticking again when I first start it up and even after I hit the tree. After second time of hitting tree and stalling out, clutch freed itself and I drove around front to mow ditch along road. But when I stopped and got off to open gate, the clutch was stuck again when I got back on. I killed tractor, put it in 3rd gear and engaged PTO to shredder, restarted tractor and began mowing. When I got to end of first row, much to my surprise, clutch cooperated and allowed me to work between reverse, 2nd and 3rd gears to move forward and backward in order to mow a small area at the end of the ditch. Didn't have any more trouble with clutch this evening. (I did hear a loud pop once that I recall hearing a couple of times last time when I was using earplugs. Where could that have come from? From the right front wheel, the clutch, or what?) I wonder if while I was gone last year and the tractor sat outside in the weather that rain got down into the clutch through the gear shifter resulting in a sticking clutch due to rust. Is there anyway I can pour some WD40 or some other lubricant down through this shifter slowly over time in order to lube up the clutch?

 

[SPYDERLK]

Just mowed again. .....SNIP....

When I got to end of first row, much to my surprise, clutch cooperated and allowed me to work between reverse, 2nd and 3rd gears to move forward and backward in order to mow a small area at the end of the ditch. Didn't have any more trouble with clutch this evening. (I did hear a loud pop once that I recall hearing a couple of times last time when I was using earplugs. Where could that have come from? From the right front wheel, the clutch, or what?) I wonder if while I was gone last year and the tractor sat outside in the weather that rain got down into the clutch through the gear shifter resulting in a sticking clutch due to rust. Is there anyway I can pour some WD40 or some other lubricant down through this shifter slowly over time in order to lube up the clutch?

Not sure how the 1010 is configured. Seems on the 2010 there is some way to remove covers from bottom or side etc and get a line of sight on the spline on which the clutch plate rides. If you can see it you can figure some way to spray a shot of lube on it. I think it may be rusted and dry which would inhibit the slight movement the plate needs to make on the spline in order to disengage cleanly. If you find a way to get to it, put the lube on the spline on the rearward side of the plate -- nearest the transmission. Maybe have someone operate the clutch repeatedly as you lube. If you have some success I would ultimately try to get a small amount of grease on the splines. There is also a product called Chain Wax, an aerosol sold at motorcycle shops. It sprays on as a liquid and drys to a lubricating wax.

Ive never had to do this type of thing on my tractor, but its the best thot that I can come up with.
Good luck!
larry

 

[KevPH1]

A lot of tree bumping going on there!
)

I think it's time to spit the tractor. Yes, I said spit the tractor before somebody gets hurt.
Likely, you might find is the spine input shaft to transmission has worn to the point the clutch disc is catching (rather than sliding) keeping pressure applied the the clutch disc, hence the clutch will not disengage.

Work safe!

 

[tomb700]

The problem is the pilot bearing is bad and is gripping the transmission input shaft so that even with the clutch depressed, the engine is turning the transmission input shaft. The flywheel turns and the stuck bearing makes the input shaft turn with it.
The pilot bearing is pressed into the flywheel and the trans input shaft fits into the pilot bearing. It supports the input shaft and allows the flywheel and input shaft to spin at different speeds. If the pilot bearing goes bad due to lack of lubrication, it will corrode and stick to the trans. input shaft.
You can break it free by starting the engine in gear and pushing the clutch in and out.
The solution is to run the tractor often so the input shaft doesn't rusted stuck, or replace the pilot bearing.
Bumping the tractor against a tree pretty bizarre.
My 1030 pilot bearing sticks some times.

 

[SPYDERLK]

The problem is the pilot bearing is bad and is gripping the transmission input shaft so that even with the clutch depressed, the engine is turning the transmission input shaft. The flywheel turns and the stuck bearing makes the input shaft turn with it.
The pilot bearing is pressed into the flywheel and the trans input shaft fits into the pilot bearing. It supports the input shaft and allows the flywheel and input shaft to spin at different speeds. If the pilot bearing goes bad due to lack of lubrication, it will corrode and stick to the trans. input shaft.
You can break it free by starting the engine in gear and pushing the clutch in and out.
The solution is to run the tractor often so the input shaft doesn't rusted stuck, or replace the pilot bearing.
Bumping the tractor against a tree pretty bizarre.
My 1030 pilot bearing sticks some times.

Interesting. I cant imagine it being stuck rereatedly tho, as hard as OP reports in a short time frame. It seems yould hear a lot of squeaking and carrying on too due to its bad condition when it was not stuck.
larry