Mike, I've been chastised by a mod (not Bird) in the past for even indicating we sell anything...I was told to pay for advertising if I wanted it. My contention (this was in the very early days) was that it was the presence of posters like me (and Ernie, Buck, Dave, Danny and others)....dealers.....that brought in a good bit of the retail crowd to start with. I still think this is true to a great extent, but not to the extent it was some years ago. Expertise and information then was far more limited than it is now. Apparently the forum ownership does not agree with me on this, but I still believe if all the dealers had pulled out of the Yanmar forum it would have collapsed. There simply was not enough information available eslewhere.
In fact it was this early chastisement by a mod that helped me decide to refuse to pay for advertising here regardless of what happened. I simply resented the lack of acknowledgement that our (dealers overall) presence was a huge factor in this forum's success. Now I'm a big fan of private property rights, and I have always fully acknowledged the prerogative of the site's owner(s) to run it as they see fit. And we get plugs here and there from individuals that are good for business. So I hang around and kick in some info from time to time, and we are listed in their free dealer listing if you do an advanced search.