Buying Advice Yanmar 324 TLB

[jmh139]

I'm looking to buy a Yanmar 324 TLB (loader with the backhoe) in the next week or so, and wanted to see if anyone has bought one and can give me their opinion, I've found only a couple of reviews here and on the Internet. I am getting quoted a price of $20,150 which seems decent. I really like the tractor, but am worried about the newness and lack of reviews. Also if you have an alternative for the same or less price, I would like to hear it.

I have 8 acres, a pond with drainage issues, and a house with sewer issues that need to be worked on. I have been borrowing a friends Kioto 20hp with backhoe and it has been working for me, but need something of my own. Thanks for any help.

 

[NHSawyer]

I have a Yanmar LX410 that I am very happy with. It is not the same machine as you are looking at but I feel Yanmar builds a good machine.

 

[Poopdeck Pappy]

You can get a Kubota BX25 for $20,000 or less. At least you could when I checked prices less than a year ago. I'm sure the Yanmar is an excellent tractor, but the Kubota is a proven tractor and the aftermarket for the Kubota is huge.

What's the difference between the 324 and the 424?

 

[MFRED]

The yanmar will be a physically bigger machine than the kubota. You should be able to get a bx25 for about 19k, but it's not going to be the same comparable machine. Yanmar will have a bigger loader, tires and weight in general. If you've got a good dealer for support go for it. I get the feeling yanmar is going to make some noise with the 324 and 424. Good size and priced machine for the market.

 

[Poopdeck Pappy]

The yanmar will be a physically bigger machine than the kubota. You should be able to get a bx25 for about 19k, but it's not going to be the same comparable machine. Yanmar will have a bigger loader, tires and weight in general. If you've got a good dealer for support go for it. I get the feeling yanmar is going to make some noise with the 324 and 424. Good size and priced machine for the market.

I couldn't get a feel for the size of the 324 and 424 because the weight, lift capacity, tire size, etc. are not listed in the specs on Yanmar's website.

I was going off of HP and PTO HP, which are listed as 23.9 gross, 21.7 net and 18.1 PTO. Those specs are the same for the 324 and the 424, and both of them are listed as sub-compacts.

The BX-25 is listed as 23 gross and 17.7 PTO. The tires on the Yanmars are certainly bigger - more similar to what's on the smaller Kubota "B" series tractors.

The BX-25 weighs 1,587 pounds, but I think that's without the loader or backhoe. I wonder what the 324 and 424 weigh.

 

[scoutcub]

:welcome: to TBN!
I found the weights on tractordata.....the 324 weighs in at 1715, and the 424 is 1900+....unsure of where the difference comes from. As they have just been introduced, I would expect the spec sheets to be forthcoming here soon.
I deal with several Yanmar dealers, and they are all impressed with the new lineup. I was told the lift capacity of the 324/424, but can't remember it, I know it was considerably higher than my SC2400.
With the 5 year powertrain warranty, they should be right in the mix with other premium manufacturers.
I've got 2 Yanmars, and very happy with both of them.

 

[jmh139]

Thanks for all the advise everyone. Trying to make my decision between the 324 and the Kioti CK2510 now.

 

[oldpilgrim]

check out the Mahindra line as well. Really good machines in your price range.

 

[Scrambler82]

The 2450 weighs in at 2500 lbs.
Thinking the 324 is the same machine.
I am interested in trading to the 424 because,of,the lifting capacity, 700 for,the 2450 vs 1200 for the 424.

Thinking hard on the 424, trying to locate a price.

 

[Scrambler82]

This is what Yanmar sent me.
Not sure it is what you are looking for.
Per a spec sheet sent by Yanmar...
Tractor weighs in at almost 2000 lbs without FEL or BH.
Lift on FEL is called out at 1199 lbs but videos say 1200 plus.

I can't seem to post the brochure, I can e-mail it though.
Give me your e-mail is you want it ?

 

[Cherokee140]

Only thing that would worry me about Yanmar is staying power in the market....around here they are here for a while then gone.....then another dealer opens or starts selling them, then they are gone on not there anymore.

I agree they do seem like very well built machines, but years down the road getting that (x part) might be hard to do.

 

[emt812]

I just purchased the 324 tl and am very impressed with this machine Yanmar is celebrating their 100 year anniversary this year. My 324 rolled off the assembly line 8-7-2014

 

[CaptFerd]

Beware of anything Yanmar. They make a good diesel engine period. They are a fly by night company and will leave you high and dry when you try to get parts for your tractor. 1 year ago there were 10 authorized dealers within my area. Today the nearest one is 2 hours one way. Parts online are impossible to find. Find a tractor that doesn't keep part numbers top secret because after the warranty your going to need a lot. Look at the oil filter on a new one. Ill bet a million you don't see a part #. Although a few brands are the same they want you to believe a Yanmar filter is special. They do void the warranty if you use another brand. I have to spend hours researching and cross referencing numbers and similar tractors to get parts for my 3 year old tractor. Most money Ive ever wasted in my life.

 

[Poopdeck Pappy]

. . . They do void the warranty if you use another brand. . . .

They cannot do that. The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act prohibits "tie-in sales", which is exactly that sort of thing.

To deny a warranty claim, they would have to prove that the non-Yanmar filter you used caused the failure/problem. (In practice, they can deny the warranty claim and then you'd have to sue them. But they would lose if they couldn't prove the filter was the cause of the problem.)

In order to REQUIRE you to use only Yanmar filters, they would have to provide them for free.

 

[CaptFerd]

They cannot do that. The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act prohibits "tie-in sales", which is exactly that sort of thing.

To deny a warranty claim, they would have to prove that the non-Yanmar filter you used caused the failure/problem. (In practice, they can deny the warranty claim and then you'd have to sue them. But they would lose if they couldn't prove the filter was the cause of the problem.)

In order to REQUIRE you to use only Yanmar filters, they would have to provide them for free.

That's some very interesting information. Thanks

 

[Cherokee140]

The other thing to remember who do you think has better and more lawyers on their side....Captain Fred or Yanmar? Just drag it out in court till the pockets run dry.

No, for me I am VERY shy around brands that do not have good support....(and I have vintage Fiats and Opels) as well as equipment that no one wanted to help me keep running. I currently have a tractor running with a Honda radiator installed. I am going to stick with well established brands from now on.

 

[Scrambler82]

I was under the impression that Yanmar was trying to establish a Dealer/Service Network.

I found a few Dealers in SoCal but their response time is lacking and they have none of the new series in stock.

I am hoping this new Network will be put in place fast so I can feel good about this new 424 that is out there somewhere.

The SC2450 is a great tractor (knock on wood) so far so good and at this time I have a good feeling about the 424 HXi TLB, got a quote... just waiting to see one.

 

[marksold187]

The 324 is proven technology. Much of the engine and drivetrain has been what they have putting out since 1980's Yanmars that are still running and many JD that they produced. It is the most produced hardware. I can't believe how tough my 1986 is. The basic hardware is so overbuilt.