Xr4040h, pto won't engage

/ Xr4040h, pto won't engage #1  

Jabsher

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I've got a 2013 xr4040h with 160 hours. Tried to use it today, and the pto won't engage. The fuse is good, (unless there's more than one), and it doesn't even try to kick on. It's as if the switch is still off. Any ideas what to check next? I'm new to working on tractors, so over simplified answers would be great.
 
/ Xr4040h, pto won't engage #2  
Could be a bad switch. Will need to do a continuity test on the switch to determine this.
 
/ Xr4040h, pto won't engage #3  
Or a safety switch that has come unplugged or something along those lines?
 
/ Xr4040h, pto won't engage
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#4  
Checked continuity on the switch, here are some sketches I drew on my phone. The first is the pin configuration of the connector on the switch. The second is the continuity in the on position, the third in the off position.

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/ Xr4040h, pto won't engage #5  
Let's assume the top left terminal is 1, top right terminal is 2, bottom left terminal is 3, and bottom right terminal is 4. According to the service manual for my XG3037, when the switch is ON there should be continuity across 1 & 2 and discontinuity across 1& 3 and 1 & 4. When the switch is OFF, the same continuity patterns exist. If the switch fails either or both conditions it should be replaced.
 
/ Xr4040h, pto won't engage
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#6  
Let's assume the top left terminal is 1, top right terminal is 2, bottom left terminal is 3, and bottom right terminal is 4. According to the service manual for my XG3037, when the switch is ON there should be continuity across 1 & 2 and discontinuity across 1& 3 and 1 & 4. When the switch is OFF, the same continuity patterns exist. If the switch fails either or both conditions it should be replaced.

What do you mean by "the same continuity patterns exist" in the off position?
 
/ Xr4040h, pto won't engage #7  
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Here is a picture of the service manual page. Hope it helps.
 
/ Xr4040h, pto won't engage #8  
Looks like an obvious error in the text on that page ---- at least if you look at the pictures and ignore the text. From the pics, I would guess continuity across 1-2 when "off" and then across 1-4 and 1-3 when "on". Or, it could be opposite. Get out the meter and see what you have now.
 
/ Xr4040h, pto won't engage
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#9  
I've got continuity from 1-2 and 3-4 in off, and
1-3, 1-4 in on. And 3-4 in on of course. If I turn the switch to on while the tractor is running, but I'm not sitting it gives the warning beep like it should. If I sit, no beep, but no engaging.
 
/ Xr4040h, pto won't engage #10  
Here's some troubleshooting info on my XR3037HC, Your 4040 PTO circuit should be the same. It could be your PTO switch is not disengaging item #5 (labelled DR) on page 3. If it is then the problem may be inside the valve itself.
 
/ Xr4040h, pto won't engage #11  
Here's some troubleshooting info on my XR3037HC, Your 4040 PTO circuit should be the same. It could be your PTO switch is not disengaging item #5 (labelled DR) on page 3. If it is then the problem may be inside the valve itself.

Thanks for posting these. Am going to replace the page in my manual on the PTO Switch Test with your copy. Really appreciate it.
 
/ Xr4040h, pto won't engage
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#12  
I think I found the problem.
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/ Xr4040h, pto won't engage #13  
Looks like someone got hungry. Sorry to see that but shouldn't be too hard to repair.
If you have insurance you may look at your policy to see if animal damage is covered. if so, have the dealer replace the wire harness.
 

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