Will a 14k dump trailer actually dump that much weight?

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For those of you with 10k, 12k, 14k dump trailers, will they actually dump that much weight? I am really torn between trying to find a smaller used dump truck or a dump trailer. I think the trailer will be more useful and less maintenance than a truck of similar price, if they will actually dump the weight. I'm planning on hauling gravel/rock for a coral for my cows, fertilizer and lime for hayfields, and firewood/logs.

I appreciate any insight.
 
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I have a 14k scissor lift PJ that has dumped all the rock I have put in it. Before I bought it I asked around and found owners of some of the cheaper skinny twin cylinder dumps that had to shovel off the front of the trailer to dump.
 
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my big tex 10k gvw rated has max load of 6,600 on its side, and has dumped almost 4 tons when quarry over loaded it.
 
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I have a deckover cam superline 14k trailer. It has twin telescopic cylinders with gravity down. You know that a 14k trailer is only supposed to have about 5-5.5 tons in it. If you continually overload your trailer it will not last long. I have dumped more than 10k loads with way too much weight on my tongue however and it is a little slow at the start but will dump it. Having a good battery in it is the most important thing.
 
   / Will a 14k dump trailer actually dump that much weight?
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found owners of some of the cheaper skinny twin cylinder dumps that had to shovel off the front of the trailer to dump.

That's exactly what I don't want to have happen.
 
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You know that a 14k trailer is only supposed to have about 5-5.5 tons in it. If you continually overload your trailer it will not last long. Having a good battery in it is the most important thing.

I agree, overloading is not safe and I don't want to get killed. I would never put more than 4.5 or 5 tons in it. I just don't want to have to shovel the thing because it won't lift the 5 tons, that defeats the whole purpose of a dump trailer.
 
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my big tex 10k gvw rated has max load of 6,600 on its side, and has dumped almost 4 tons when quarry over loaded it.

What sort of cylinders does it have? Gravity down?
 
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My biggest complaint of those dump trailers is, they don't dump high enough.

Anything that's a bit sticky, won't all dump out of them, like wet sand ect…

SR
 
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My biggest complaint of those dump trailers is, they don't dump high enough.

Anything that's a bit sticky, won't all dump out of them, like wet sand ect…

SR

I've learned to never predict the future or say never, but at this time I don't see me hauling anything sticky or wet.
 
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Most of them with scissor lifts will lift about a ton more than they are rated at. The biggest deal is do you have enough battery (heavier payload takes more power) and if is it loaded properly.

My Diamond C uses a six inch cylinder scissor lift (most use five inch). It has failed three times to lift the load enough to get it out. The first time the solenoid on the hydraulic pump crapped out. This was before I’d had the trailer a month. New solenoid and the second has never been a problem. The other two times were both slightly overweight, but the problem was it was all loaded in the front half of my 16’ trailer. The loader operator at the killings plant doesn’t understand trailers and always loads at the headboard. Good, for dump trucks trying to spread the load, bad for trailers, it doesn’t spread the load. Compounding the issue, where I was dumping it, the front of the trailer tongue is down I. The valley between my driveway and the street.

My trailer holds right at 5 tons, while staying legal. GVWR of 14,900. Trailer weight around 5,000 pounds, empty. It’s a 16’, which is rated the same as the 14’ trailers, but allows less payload due to more trailer weight. Five tons of gravel leaves about a foot of floor open on each end of the pile (front and back). In the middle of the trailer, the pile will fill about 2/3rds of the 24” sidewalls. Where people get in trouble is filling them up with heavy product. With dirt or gravel, fully loading the physical space will be two to three times the rated payload capacity-most hoists and pumps will leave you shoveling this.

Dump trucks run off a PTO, off a large engine. This gives them a lot more power than a typical dump trailer will have.

A good option, if you’re worried about battery power, is to get one with a small engine on the tongue. You start the engine, which powers the pump. These are stronger, but now you have another engine to maintain.
 

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