Wife got bit by the boat bug...

   / Wife got bit by the boat bug... #1  

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We live 20 miles from Smith Mountain Lake and my wife has gotten the bug to possibly buy a boat.. We are going to rent a few times to make sure we dont hate it and then probably look at buying in the fall..

I am thinking a pontoon/float boat is more of what I want, but we are going to try out a few other types as well.. She grew up with a 'fish and ski' boat, but Im not quite sure if that is a certain type..

Anyone got any tips/advise for buying a boat? What about buying a used boat? What minimum HP of engine would you recommend? anything to stay away from?

thanks

Brian
 
   / Wife got bit by the boat bug... #2  
Brian, if you can find what you want in a used boat, you can probably get a good one for half the price of a new one. The problem is finding exactly what you want. As for recommendations, it's sorta like tractors. We'd have to know how you intend to use it; fishing? bass fishing? trolling? water skiing? stay out overnight? smooth water? rough water? How fast do you want to go?
 
   / Wife got bit by the boat bug... #3  
just remember this acronym

B reak
O ut
A nother
T housand

What are the 2 happiest days in the life of a boat owner?
the day he buys it and the day he sells it.

good luck and happy floating
 
   / Wife got bit by the boat bug... #4  
Boats have been my entire life. I live on the water so I can hopefully shed a bit of answers to your questions.

The addage about another thousand is for folks that are not willing to spend money for a hobby, and have chosen the wrong boat to begin with. Each to their own.

The best boat days are when no one else is on the lake. Fair weather people are perfect. They never get out on a less than sunny day. So the first and last best days are normally...fair weather people.... Each to their own. ...


You and the MRs (not knowing you) can always enjoy a pontoon. A float boat is a different animal. I'd not go less than 24' in length, and no less than a 23" diameter pontoon. The motor would have to be no less than 115 - 150 for me. One way the price can remain low on a pontoon is the small 40HP motors. Nothing wrong with that but a larger HP can handle the boat much easier.

I have had outboards, inboards, I/Os, houseboats (single and twins), pontoons, canoes, and even a cement mixing tub with oars.

I currently have an inboard (as I like to water ski) which is your best performance boat in the way of handling. It has a Ford 351 CI engine, direct drive, and has little maintenance required, other than oil, filters, and common tuneup components. I/Os, are a general use family boat that is lacking in some ways, and has good points that others don't (more room). Outboards are fine for running a fishing boat, or a fish / ski, but are limited in performance handling (can cavitate in a tight turn, etc..relative to an inboard).

You'll find everyone has an opinion on boats, even here, as you can see.

Buy used (with good advise and mechanical checks).

A place to start is your budget. Boats can range from little of nothing to a bunch.

Also consider how you want to store the boat, where you want to keep it during summer months (normal use months) and how you want to manage docking or trailering. Have a place prepared to keep the boat in dry storage year round, no matter if you trailer each day or dock throughout the summer. Boats will not keep well in the open elements, just like anything else.

My opinion on boats after having all of said common power resources is an inboard. I currently have a Mastercraft and that is all I'll continue to use since I discovered these in 1979 for water skiing. Used ones are out there, most in good shape, resell is preserved by the nature of the boat. They do no depreciate near as much as do other types. The inboard has specific uses and purposes but the performance is surpassed by none. All the while they come with roominess and passenger capability.

I'll hush now... Feel free to ask away. I am certain that there are a lot of boat people here with good advice and experience just as mine.

:tiphat:
 

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   / Wife got bit by the boat bug... #5  
nice boat, but the trees are fantastic.
 
   / Wife got bit by the boat bug... #6  
Here's my Fish'N'Ski: Outboard, deck, pole seats if necessary front and rear. Live fish wells, extra batteries for electric trolling motor. Ladder, windshield, tow hook, built in cooler. Easy to trailer, fits in a wide garage, outboard means last day of the year don't worry about freezing up. First day of the season just check the motor battery. Low deck means easy in and out, especially for dogs. Low freeboard means easy to get to the beach and sand bars. Mercury engine runs alternating 2 of 4 cylinders for really good fuel economy like GM's Active Fuel Management. Auto oil injection in this case. Newer motors are 4 cycle. Dises: A bit loud at full throttle. NOT a Great Lakes boat but has been done: (Erie). High initial cost. Usually way too much power for all it really needs. Relatively heavy but can take a LOT of pounding. Great river boat (like Niagara river 1/2 mile above the Falls). 2 cycle motor goves poor fuel rate. Cheap to insure.

I put a 5 bladed Mercury High5 bleed off prop on it and the acceleration is incredible. Left 2 dogs in the water who were not prepared for the kick.
 
   / Wife got bit by the boat bug... #7  
I think you are doing right by renting. Try it the first season and maybe the second. Boats and swimming pools seem to fall in the same category. I haven't owned either but have friends who have. They seem to be great the first year, pretty nice the second, OK the third, and little used after that.
 
   / Wife got bit by the boat bug... #8  
Renting or going out with friends is good advice.

You need to decide how you want to use the boat.

Do you enjoy getting there (performance) or being there (comfort). This applies across all types of boats - from canoes to sail boats, to powerboats. Boats are very, very specialized - even more so than tractors. Sure you can fish from just about anything that floats, but if you are a hardcore angler, you will want the boat that is specialized to your type of fishing (bass, vs. smaller offshore, vs. sport fisherman).

If you keep the boat in the water, it is vastly more convenient to use. If it is a "party barge" - you can even head down to the lake after work to enjoy dinner/drinks on it (and the generally cooler weather the lake will offer) - you don't even have to leave the dock. Kind of a "poor mans" (relative) lakehouse. I'll bet I used the boat 10X more when it's already in the water.

Low deck means easy in and out, especially for dogs. Low freeboard means easy to get to the beach and sand bars

I'm a salt water boater (more of a sailor, but we've had a couple whalers over the years currently a 17' Montauk) - we have the opposite opinion about freeboard. Low deck / freeboard = wet ride:rolleyes: I've always heard freeboard referred to the height above water. Depth below is "draft" - ie she draws 15" (good for beaching).
 
   / Wife got bit by the boat bug... #9  
My wife and I are in the same situation, except we know what we want, we just don't want to spend the money on it just yet. We have two kids, 9 and 6, who would love to go boating and spend some time on the lake. We live in the middle of half a dozen of some of the best fishing lakes in the country with very cheap to free boat launches.

We want a pontoon boat with a toilet, awning and brand new motor. I grew up with boats and theres' nothing as frustrating as being stranded out in the water needing a tow. It's happened numerous times, and I sure don't want to do it again if I can help it. So a brand new motor and a spare put put motor will be must haves. We'll probably buy used and I'm always checking the classifieds for a fixer upper with good pontoons and a trailer.

I just don't know of another type of boat that does what a pontoon boat does. I grew up waterskiing and agree with crbr that an inboard is the best for skiing. Family boats, open bows and runabouts are ok for skiing and do a good compimise for family fun, but they really don't do either one exceptionally well. Jet boats are just money pits that accomplish nothing. They are terrible to ski behind because they don't hold a steady course. It's just too easy to pull them sideways when skiing. I'm not into waterskiing anymore, so I want a floating island to get around in nice and easy, then drop anchor and just float on the water someplace nice. It's about relaxing, having fun and spending that quality time with the kids and friends.

Eddie
 
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BB_TX said:
I think you are doing right by renting. Try it the first season and maybe the second. Boats and swimming pools seem to fall in the same category. I haven't owned either but have friends who have. They seem to be great the first year, pretty nice the second, OK the third, and little used after that.


I've had both, I miss my pool
 

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