Wheel/Rim fell off.

[Sinecure]

It would of course have to happen on the hottest day of the year.....

I have a DK45SE HST. 350 hours

While driving (in 2 wheel mode), I heard a sharp crack of metal on metal and then the entire left front wheel assembly came of the tractor.

No sounds, noises, rubbing, etc prior to it happening. I performed a check of the tractor prior to jumping on since it has been about a month since last use.

Here are my questions/comments:

The teeth/gear on the thread coming off the rim look ok. No shearing noticed.

The teeth inside the axle tube/unit look ok also.

There is a metal ring that appears to fit inside the axle mount assembly which is broken and sheared.

The O ring is toast.

There also appears to be a ball bearing on the wheel/rim side that looks a little worse for wear.

Question one: How bad is this type of damage?
Question two: Can I fix it myself?
Question three: What parts do I need.

To add insult to injury - my local dealer is no longer in business with Kioti.

All help/comments appreciated.

Pics Below:

 

[Pure Animal]

you need a new camera too, them pictures are just wrong...lol

 

[jonyyuma]

Amen on the colors, it looks to have broken the retainer key on the hub. it appears to be a Painful experience, amazing like my front hub design.

 

[5030]

1. you broke the retainer clip that keeps the works in the axle...

2. It appears from the color of the oil coming out that maintenance intervals for you are non-existent

3. You need a dealer because the axle has to come apart, or at least the outer section.

4. Your camera needs to go in the trash.

Considering the color of the oil, I suspect other things are happening inside, not good things either.

 

[johnrex62]

I disagree about the camera. These are better pics than a lot I have seen in fine art galleries. I think you may have a future with a Farmer's Fine Art Series in a fancy NY art gallery. :thumbsup:

 

[5030]

I disagree about the camera. These are better pics than a lot I have seen in fine art galleries. I think you may have a future with a Farmer's Fine Art Series in a fancy NY art gallery. :thumbsup:

I looked at the pictures and I thought I was 16 again and doing some good hash..............:laughing:

 

[unhappykioti]

Before all you maintenance experts start trashing this guy and saying he's not maintaining his tractor you ought to get some decent pictures you can't tell what color anything is.

 

[jonyyuma]

Well the oil does look to be very thin and dark for 90 weight..

 

[zzvyb6]

So unbolt the hub section, get a new snap ring and "O" ring from the local ACE hardware store and get back to business. If they don't have it, take a plane back to South Korea and get the OEM parts.

If that;s the worst thing that happens to your machine, consider it good luck.

Good Grief, Charlie Brown....

 

[jonyyuma]

So unbolt the hub section, get a new snap ring and "O" ring from the local ACE hardware store and get back to business. If they don't have it,

If that;s the worst thing that happens to your machine, consider it good luck.

Good Grief, Charlie Brown....

try NAPA for the parts if you carry in the old one and the stub of the axle. you could use sealant on the gasket if it is ruined. Top off the oil to the axle or Besure to change the gear oil after you have ensured it isn't leaking a lot...drain it from both sides...

 

[PapaPerk]

Sorry about your tractor. Put some normally non artsy pics up so we can see what's what!

 

[VictorW]

Kioti uses the same hydro oil in the axles when they fill them at the factory. Some dealers also use the hydro oil at service time while other dealers and owners switch to 80-90 gear lube.
You can do this repair yourself. See if a member can get you parts diagram for that section of axle and you'll see it's a fairly straight forward repair. Those eight bolts going around the larger round gear section at the end of the axle come out and split that end section in half. You'll take the piece that fel out and insert it into that half section using a retaining ring to keep it all together. As you mentioned, you may also need a new bearing and seal for the half section. Once together, reinstall the eight bolts, add oil, the tire, and you're off. I have the diagram for my CK30hst which is very similar if that will help you or check this post for the diagram. http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kioti-owning-operating/210315-front-axle-leak-2008-ck30.html This member had a similar problem with his DK40 Front axcel leaking - TractorByNet.com I hope this helps.

 

[Sinecure]

Alright, I deserve some grief for the picture quality.......

However, in my defense - in my grief stricken state right after the ordeal, I snapped some quick pictures with my cell phone camera. Side note to everyone using a cell phone camera - make sure you do not get Hydro oil on the lens prior to taking the picture. (to funny...)

For all the posters that I took back to their early party years - you are welcome.

I am pretty sure it was not a maint. issue, I change both the Hydro and engine oil, every 50 hours. Other than a starter issue, this is the only other issue the Kioti has given me. Granted, you don't want a tire falling off as your second issue.

Here is the update - Bob at Michigan Iron has given me the scoop on how to correct the problem. He has the parts arriving at my location on Monday. (for those of you who do not have a local dealer anymore - Michigan Iron, they are good people).

Will post the update once I install the new parts. If you are lucky, I will smear some more hydro oil on the lens. :laughing:

 

[Damifino]

Sinecure, that's far out dude... but since already have the spare parts, you might be interested in this.:thumbsup:

 

[Patches]

Sinecure, that's far out dude... but since already have the spare parts, you might be interested in this.:thumbsup:

You guys are brutal

 

[mrutkaus]

Love the last picture! Obviously you have the camera or software somehow set on making a negative out of a positive picture!

Sorry for your troubles.

Mike

 

[Damifino]

Love the last picture! Obviously you have the camera or software somehow set on making a negative out of a positive picture!

Sorry for your troubles.

Mike

As op stated above:

 

[Damifino]

Here's the thread I was looking for, http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kioti-owning-operating/137034-funky-ck20.html

 

[steve0413]

Kioti uses the same hydro oil in the axles when they fill them at the factory. Some dealers also use the hydro oil at service time while other dealers and owners switch to 80-90 gear lube.
You can do this repair yourself. See if a member can get you parts diagram for that section of axle and you'll see it's a fairly straight forward repair. Those eight bolts going around the larger round gear section at the end of the axle come out and split that end section in half. You'll take the piece that fel out and insert it into that half section using a retaining ring to keep it all together. As you mentioned, you may also need a new bearing and seal for the half section. Once together, reinstall the eight bolts, add oil, the tire, and you're off. I have the diagram for my CK30hst which is very similar if that will help you or check this post for the diagram. http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kioti-owning-operating/210315-front-axle-leak-2008-ck30.html This member had a similar problem with his DK40 Front axcel leaking - TractorByNet.com I hope this helps.

Here's a good online reference with parts diagrams and even prices.
http://www.paigetractorsparts.com/pages/oemparts?aribrand=KTT

 

[Sinecure]

Thanks everybody for the links, diagrams and help.

Here is the update:

I was able to get the axle components assembled and mounted back on the tractor. Better yet, I was able to drive it back to the barn and give my re-assembly a better once over.

After looking at the service manual and getting all of the parts, it was a fairly straight forward project. Not easy, but pretty straight forward.

The hardest part was having to drop the lower gear and shaft in order to allow the larger bevel gear to be reinstalled in the axle case. This would have been an easier task if the tractor would not have been in the field. (It has also been hot as **** here lately).

Here are a couple of pictures of the re-assembled parts (minus the bevel gear and a bearing- I added those after taking the picture). No hydro oil on the lens this time.

The smudge in the axle case is just where I wiped it with a rag. I had an area that looked like there may have been a gouge, but it was nothing.

In putting everything back together, I believe my original issue was with the retaining clip/snap ring that goes around the axle. I am not sure if it failed or broke/popped off. Once that goes - there is nothing holding all of the axle components from getting out of line and torn up.