Comparison What's with the Yanmar 2000 B or G D?

[BurningBushFarm]

Okay guys --

What's with the YM 2000BD vs the YM G 2000D
vs the most referenced generic YM 2000D?

Comparing the different comparisons (all 4 WD) from a couple different sources:
HP Wgt Sold
2000BD 4 WD 22 2 gear drive 1940 100" 46" 1979
G 2000D 4 WD 23.5 3 gear drive 1918 104" 44" 1988-?

Thanks!
(Still waiting for solenoid problem resolution on the YM 2000D I looked at.)

 

[California]

YMG2000 is a later 3 cylinder Yanmar, unrelated to the 70's 2 cylinder YM2000's.

You probably know that the first two digits in a Yanmar model are the horsepower available at the pto. (The driveshaft sticking out the back of the transmission). They are rated this way because the horsepower available to drive a rototiller is the main marketing description in Japan.

D suffix means a Yanmar has the 4 wheel drive option. (applicable to a broad range of Yanmars).

YM2000 had an early and late series. Early was painted green and had the headlights external alongside the grille. YM2000 second series was painted red with the headlights in the 'standard' Yanmar grille. YM2000B added some refinement to the second series - a nicer dashboard with more instruments, and additional sound reducing panels enclosing the sides of the engine. Basically a marketing upgrade more than an engineering upgrade.

Then there's YM2000's little brother YM1700. Nearly the same, omitted a water pump, had smaller bore cylinder sleeves that can be replaced by YM2000 sleeves and pistons. Smaller tires etc. Same early and late versions of sheet metal as YM2000.

And finally - the US-market versions of YM1700 and YM2000. Named YM195 and YM240. See the sales brochures referenced from my sig, below, for these. The US numbers indicate horsepower too but tested American style, measuring a naked engine on a test stand so they claim 24 hp. The identical engine is used in YM2000 and YM240; its output is simply represented differently for marketing purposes.

Confused yet?

 

[Gary Sweat]

I have a question that sort of goes along with this thread.

I see a lot of 70's and early to mid 80's models but don't find any after those years for sale. I'm sure they made them but how is it that they don't find there way to the states like the seemingly endless flow of earlier models.

 

[stormpetrel]

I have a question that sort of goes along with this thread.

I see a lot of 70's and early to mid 80's models but don't find any after those years for sale. I'm sure they made them but how is it that they don't find there way to the states like the seemingly endless flow of earlier models.

I've seen a lot on TBN about competition for the Japanese tractors from other countries. I think parts availability might have something to do with it as well. People want tractors that they can get parts for, and some of the newer Yanmars are difficult to find parts for.

I wonder if Yanmar Corp's campaign against grey market machines has helped to slow the tide.....what do you think?

 

[clemsonfor]

I have a question that sort of goes along with this thread.

I see a lot of 70's and early to mid 80's models but don't find any after those years for sale. I'm sure they made them but how is it that they don't find there way to the states like the seemingly endless flow of earlier models.

They quit making them, they made things like the 01, 02 10 and 20 designations. At least thats what i think. Then of to the F series. And yes i know things like the 2010 had powershift and the 2020 is powershift on the colum.

 

[California]

I see a lot of 70's and early to mid 80's models but don't find any after those years ... how is it that they don't find there way to the states like the seemingly endless flow of earlier models.

Just a guess, based on stuff I've read here: Japanese tax depreciation law, and Japanese culture, value 20 year old tractors at zero so there are salvage yards full of these old ones available at scrap price. The difference between that and what an importer can get for them here created a profit opportunity so a small import industry was created.

But I suspect the later ones are in the back row at dealer lots waiting for local resale, priced too high to justify shipping them over here because there would be no profit margin. Where's Buck? He knows all this stuff first hand.

You didn't ask, but I think another element in the picture is that the Yen/Dollar exchange rate has shifted which killed the profit margin for anyone importing them.

 

[nocny drwal]

the first two digits in a Yanmar model are the horsepower available at the pto...

Is this rule valid for F series?
Why does the F series is less popular than the YM?

 

[clemsonfor]

Is this rule valid for F series?
Why does the F series is less popular than the YM?

There newer, so there more costly, and there are fewer of them around for that reason as many farmers may not have upgraded yet in Japan. Also for this reason parts support is not as great here so many including myself have shyed away from them and really dont want one yet.

 

[Gary Sweat]

Couldn't they just as easily started building them in the US or Canada? With the prices I have seen on other imports seems like they could have competed easily.

 

[BurningBushFarm]

Thanks.

The funny (?) thing is on the spec charts I've seen ... mmm... 3 different places, they don't list the YM 2000D plain vanilla model. Which is actually pretty popular from what I can tell.

Aso, the HP (not PTO) is calculated at only 22 for the YM2000D and YM 2000BD. ? (1.2 x 20 = 24 .... not exact, I know)

The one I am looking at is red with a green engine block ... therefore later 70s I assume.

Wind chill here at 5 - 7 degrees right now. Hope all you in the upper midwest are warm. Brrrrrr.