Dirt Moving What's the hype with HST?

   / What's the hype with HST?
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#51  
Would you just pop the clutch on your gear tractor on dry pavement? Hit the brakes hard in reverse on dry ground?

That's exactly what you are doing with HST by being abrupt on the pedal.

Sounds like an operator that is not familiar with the equipment...

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Oh, that was a good one...you really got me there.

Okay-okay, so the consensus is that it's not such a hype with the HST's! I'm actually very surprised by the overwhelming response on how almost everyone likes them. It's especially interesting to hear it from people who have operated both the GST and the HST transmissions.

Thanks again to most all of you who made valid points!
 
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   / What's the hype with HST? #52  
IIRC the OP mentioned mowers and drive motors on the 'front' wheels, so I'm picturing those 'backward' SCUTs with decks hanging out front going down hills with the rear wheels steering (?) when those fronts dig in & the whole shebang tips forward. Scary if the 'rear' ones are non-steering casters and more like just following or landing at random. On a tractor it's the rear wheels that grab when you release a HST pedal and the ones the brakes are stopping when you use them.

btw: A HST will 'bog' going up a hill if you give it more 'pedal' since doing so is sliding literally into a higher gear. IMO anyone belaboring this ingrained response should be perfectly happy with a shuttle-shift and foot throttle. With HSTs a dab at the throttle, easing up on the HST pedal, or choice of a lower range are options, but often only one of these is needed.

HST must share hp with steering & hydraulics, and though it seems to lose a fair bit of its own portion to 'inefficiency', how often must the engine's entire effort go just to the driving wheels? I don't ever run at WFO rpm, and the convenience is a small trade-off of something I have more than enough of remaining to spin the tires.

At the very least, we retirees will often prefer using just one hand and one foot to operate as we lose our physical flexibility. Call us lazy, but we might also be more interested in buying a pre-owned tractor without the fear of having to split it to replace a clutch that may be on its last legs. That said, if there were no such thing as HST, I'd bet as many of us adherents would be 'shuttle or nothing' guys. ;)
 
   / What's the hype with HST?
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#53  
HST's have been refined over the past decades such that they're really smooth - not jerky anymore, like the cheapo golf carts described.

DM

Just to be clear, my description was never about golf carts. Not even. Those ran fine. It was about golf course maintenance mowing equipment. To be specific, they were mostly John Deere and Toro. Not some homeowner scut or some small tractor with attachments or some junk you get a Lowes. These machines sell for well over $60k for the larger pieces. Small greens triplex units were around $35k. Not cheap by any means.

However, I think it's pretty clear I was comparing apples to oranges.
 
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