What type mower is most efficient?

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Alright y'all, I'm hoping to upgrade my mowing gear. I've been running a 5' rotary cutter, and I want to go bigger. However, I'm not sure how much bigger I can go.

Is there a type of mower, like a sickle bar or flail mower, that uses less power than a rotary cutter? My tractor ('67 IH 424), is about 36 PTO horsepower. I usually mow in 3rd gear low range, and the tractor runs the 5' well. I'm mowing around 20 acres, and would like to spend less time doing it. Could I run a 7 or 8 foot flail or sickle mower?
 
   / What type mower is most efficient? #2  
Alright y'all, I'm hoping to upgrade my mowing gear. I've been running a 5' rotary cutter, and I want to go bigger. However, I'm not sure how much bigger I can go.

Is there a type of mower, like a sickle bar or flail mower, that uses less power than a rotary cutter? My tractor ('67 IH 424), is about 36 PTO horsepower. I usually mow in 3rd gear low range, and the tractor runs the 5' well. I'm mowing around 20 acres, and would like to spend less time doing it. Could I run a 7 or 8 foot flail or sickle mower?



A flail of that size is available from several manufacturers BUT-

You may be money ahead looking for a surplus mowing tractor on many of the web auction sites or at state of local municipality auction as they have diesel engines and batwing flail mowers and boom mowers attached.
A disc mower may be more than what you want also and will cost more


-but saying that

another option is a used towed flail chopper for grass silage for that width as you are not towing a wagon.




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A 75 inch caroni flail mower is the FRTM1900FSC is the finish cut flail mower
with 112 grass knives.

The issue is your budget and how fine a cut you want to have as the grass knives will reduce everything to the ground with no issues as long as you go slowly or make high and low passes-but it also depends on how often you mow and that must be taken into consideration.


The grass knives last a long time and are easy to change or replace for sharpening.


The more often you mow the less brush you have, mowing in a spiral pattern saves on braking and turning and backing up to mow.


the issues are

your time
your budget

the speed of mowing desired versus width of cut
where mowing in spiral saves so much time when
mowing brush its hard to believe and you can overlap
a bit too.


the desired finish if thats an issue
animals on grass while mowing if any



mowing slowly with a flail mower will shred everything and leave little residue to look at as it is sliced to tiny bits and will leave little regrowth to deal with at every mowing.



A five or six foot flail mower for general use may be all you need and thier are lots of good used ones with good used iron all over the place for sale.


Another option is the Acre Ease towed rotary mower they can be ganged with 2 and 3 or more mowers for wide width and your IH simply becomes a tow vehicle with less strain on the powertrain.


My dad had a Ford Jubilee with a 7 foot john deere grass mower which he used to mow the 8 acres of unused pasture we have so its easily done with a flail of any size.


It may simply be an issue of lowering your guage wheel to allow the deck to drag on the ground the wheel acting as a caster.

If the rear is high you should tighten the top link and level the mower deck with the ground to mow in float if you have not done that already.
 
   / What type mower is most efficient? #3  
Well at 36 pto hp you could diffently run a 6 ft mower,maybe even 7 ft,[might get into weight issues with 7,don't know].
 
   / What type mower is most efficient? #4  
Alright y'all, I'm hoping to upgrade my mowing gear. I've been running a 5' rotary cutter, and I want to go bigger. However, I'm not sure how much bigger I can go.

Is there a type of mower, like a sickle bar or flail mower, that uses less power than a rotary cutter? My tractor ('67 IH 424), is about 36 PTO horsepower. I usually mow in 3rd gear low range, and the tractor runs the 5' well. I'm mowing around 20 acres, and would like to spend less time doing it. Could I run a 7 or 8 foot flail or sickle mower?

I have a IH 424 diesel too and I have a Ford 917 flail mower 74" wide that has 33 knives (see pic of knives).
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If the grass is thick and the blades are dull I'll be down to 1st in low range. If the blades are sharp I can cut great in 3rd low range in tall grass.

I have 13.6x28 tires one size bigger than stock and that increases the ground speed. I wish my flail was the 88" version for all but the very toughest conditions. One thing the flail does not do is bust up branches that are +2".

It's great to be able to mow my yard and cut pastures with the same mower.
 

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The sickle bar type mower may use the least HP. ??:confused:
 
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The sickle bar type mower may use the least HP. ??:confused:

the sickle uses the least horse power but the problem of broken knive bars and having to rivet teeth in the bars if you do not carry spares always rears its ugly head if a rock comes to visit.


leon
 
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I appreciate the advice. Buying another tractor isn't really an option right now, so I'm trying to see if I can better utilize what I have. My 424 is a gasoline unit, but I'm running the 13.6x28 tires also.

All I'm trying to do is cut a pasture. Doesn't have to be extremely short, or real pretty. I'd be willing to look into a towed type rotary cutter, or a flail. I've never used a flail, but I keep hearing about them.

From what I'm reading I could probably run a 7' flail, and possibly even an 8'? Does that sound about right, or are my eyes too big for my tractor? :laughing:
 
   / What type mower is most efficient? #8  
As noted, a sickle bar uses the least hp per foot of cut.

Your biggest limitation on forward speed of mowing is likely to be the smoothness of your fields, so looking at wider mowers is a good idea.

I have run a 6' rotary cutter on a 45 pto hp Deere for several years and had far more hp than I needed for any mowing task. Just today I have started running a 6' Caroni flail on a Kioti with 32.5 pto hp and I have more than adequate hp for it even in heavy stuff, although it is not significantly overpowered the way that my Deere/LX6 combination was. In other words, I think a 6' mower is probably your best bet with 36 pto hp, unless you want a sickle bar. You might get away with a 7' rotary but that would probably be the limit, and I don't know enough about your tractor to know how well it would handle the weight and size of a 7' rotary cutter (they are big).

Edit to add: I'll bet you could run a 7' flail, but I'm not sure where you would find a 7' flail that's within your budget and perhaps even within the weight limit of your tractor. Above 6' the flails seem to be mostly super heavy duty highway mowing type units, very expensive and very heavy.
 
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I want to cut back the amount of time I spend mowing. Due to the field I cut, the fastest ground speed I can run comfortably (without being bounced off the tractor) is about 3rd gear Low range. That leaves me looking for the widest mower my machine can run at that speed.

Budget is relative. I'm probably going to look for a used unit, because I'd like to stay around $1,000.00 or less. I haven't priced new flail mowers, but I'm guessing by the way y'all are talking they're significantly more expensive than that.

I may wind up looking for a towed rotary cutter or flail mower. That would eliminate the weight issue, at least. I'm open to the sickle bar, but I'm concerned about brush/ limbs and rocks. Would ground speed be an issue with a sickle? I worry that 3rd gear might be too fast for one to cut properly, though I don't know quite what MPH my tractor runs in that gear. Disc mowers are probably out; from what I understand most of them run of of a remote on the tractor, and my tractor can not operate the 3 point and a remote line at the same time.
 
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Disc mowers are mostly for haying and very, very expensive.

Sickle bars can typically run at fairly high forward speeds, and also fine at slower speeds. Rocks are an issue, as is safety.

Flails are nice but new ones in the size you're looking for start at $2000 or so (Caroni TM1900, I just got mine today) and go up rapidly from there. I don't know if you'll find a used one in good condition.

I suspect that your budget mostly limits you to rotary cutters, some new options and many used options. I wouldn't rule out a used flail but I wouldn't expect to find a good one within that price range. FWIW, the local TSC has some slightly aging King Kutter 6' rotary cutters for just $799 - not top quality but perfectly functional. Based on shopping within the last month, nicer quality 6' cutters from other brands are going to be at least $1500 and it wouldn't be hard to go over $2k (one of the reasons I wound up buying the Caroni flail - it didn't end up costing any more than the quality level of cutter I wanted).
 
 

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