What size auger do you use?

/ What size auger do you use? #1  

cletus99

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I'm thinking about purchasing a post hole digger soon and I was wondering what size auger you all use? I don't need a 12 inch for sure. So I'm torn between a 6 inch or 9 inch. I usually buy the 4/5 x 8 post from Tractor Supply for my fence so I was really just wondering how well a 6 inch auger would work. Thinking I should go with a 9 inch.
 
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You might rephrase the question to what sizes auger do you have and if more than one which do you use.

I bet a lot of people bought 1 auger and use only that auger, even if a larger or smaller would be better.

I bought both 9 and 12 inch and have really only used the 9 inch, mainly for Chain link fence corner post holes.
 
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I have a 6"-9" &12"" but only use the 9" for line post and the 12" for larger corner post and 4x6 or 6x6
John
 
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I have the 9" and 12" augers and I also use the 9" for line posts and 12" for my corner posts.
 
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We have never used smaller than a 12 inch. More room to get the post in just the right position, especially if rocks have to be worked around. Small line posts usually get pounded in where possible.
 
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3pt hitch PHD (post hole digger) are nice, so much better than hand digging that is for sure.
there are issues though....
--you may end up getting down force kit for the PHD, to help make holes at ugly times of the year when soil is dry / hard and compacted. you do not have to have a down force kit, and use the old water in hole and let set for a half day to a day. to get hole dug. but..
--if you get auger down into a root. there is no "reverse" so ya out there with a pipe wrench, twisting it back out.
--a tractor is not the most agile of units out there. and can be rather tricky trying to backup or move forward, etc... just that 1/2" and hold on brakes etc... to keep from moving as you operate the PHD.
--as PHD digs, it goes in at an angle.
--can be rather hard to see around tractor even if you have a second person there spotting you.

with above...
--are you hand tamping the dirt back in around the posts? to keep them aligned? the hand tampers need a little bit of wiggle room. granted to much wiggle room and ya there constantly tampering more dirt than needed.
--if you are tossing in some concrete into the bottom. ok hand tamping not as much but still.
--if you are running fence along property line. or want a nice straight line, you will either hit some ugly spots were ya break out spade, and the old 2 handle manual post hole digger. or go for a bigger auger bit. so you can adjust the post over this way or that way.

a 3pt hitch PHD is fairly cheap. and kinda hard not to buy one, if you need to put in some fence.
but....
--renting a mini ex (mini excavator) with a PHD instead of a bucket on it. might be something, or if you have a backhoe, swapping the bucket out for a PHD. these PHD diggers run off of hydrualics, so there is both a forward and reverse. so if ya do get auger stuck under a root for example. move the hyd lever back. and away you go. plus you have down force already there. and abilty to line up PHD level and in line with rest of posts fairly easy.
--and then there is... post hammers. either a railed sledge kinda of hammer that attaches to a tractor, or fork lift unit or like. or a post hammer that uses pressurized air, or an mini explosion (shot gun shell in a sense) to hammer the posts into the ground, without drilling a hole and no need to tamp any dirt back around the post.
--post hole digger or hammer mounted to a FEL (front end loader), might be an option.
--and then the ugly 2 man post hole digger (2 cylinder (weed eater engine)) that a couple guys run. you can rent one man units but not really made for large deep holes.

i am for a backhoe or a mini ex approach.
--the fence lines here run 1 T metal, 1 4x4 wood, 1 T metal, 1 4x4 wood,etc...
the T posts, i stab into the ground by hand, and then use the backhoe bucket, to push them down, ya need around 1 to 1 1/2" short pipe welded onto backhoe bucket. so end of T post does not slid away from you and cause the T post to bend. if you have a small say 6" to 9" bucket for backhoe or mini ex. dig the holes perpendicular to the fence line. so the fill dirt going back in. does not go in direction of the fence. but away from the fence.
--open up the old phone book, and look up "equipment rental" or "machinery rental" call a few places a couple hours away "prices can be that different". and see how much it is to rent. fence lines last for a long time or at least they should. see what it costs to rent vs buying.
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i don't set that many corner posts. compared to actual line posts. so 6" auger for a 4x4 works good enough for me. on other hand a 9" auger would be nice for 6x6 corner. but honestly i save more time dealing with the 50 plus wooden line posts. vs the handful or corner posts i would need to deal with.
 
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I use a 6 inch first then switch to a 9 inch. I have rocks in clay so the pilot hole is needed. I then back fill the the hole with 3/4 - rock(type 1)(class a) . This firms up after a rain to concrete-like.
 
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Most around here use a 12 inch. It lets you use different size post. It is easier to tamp the post in tightly as well.
 
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I believe we used a 6" and a post driver. (Not mine, borrowed the in laws since it was not a long term need). Never have set stone or concrete around my fence posts and they are solid. Line posts- Drilled to 3/4 the set depth of the post fo then drove them in. Corner posts-Buried the auger, pulled up to clean, and buried it again to clean the hole, and again drive the 6" posts in at the corners with brace posts. All of this for 5 wire high tensile.
 
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I only wanted to buy one auger so I bought the 12". I wouldn't go any smaller than a 9" for anything unless you can be very exact when making the hole. You need to allow room to give yourself some adjustment of the post.
 
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I have a 24" for corner post. All my line post are driven
 
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Thanks for all the inputs. Ya'll have given me some things to think about.
 
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I have a 12" and it works well for 6x6 posts and rr ties. IF I did a lot of smaller posts I would get a 6 or 9.

As far as the "down force kits" I am of the belief that they do little to nothing. The 3 point hitch floats so the lower links can't push down and I can't tell a difference when I engage the down force cylinder. IF it was really doing something you would feel the tractor try to lift when it engaged like what happens when you push down with the FEL. Simply extending that cylinder can't really do much IMO as the only down force is really the weight of the post hole digger which does not change by simply extending a cylinder. IF you want down force get a hydraulic auger and put it on the FEL.
 
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12" for me also
 

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/ What size auger do you use? #17  
When I got my Beltec hydraulic auger I also bought 9" and 15" bits (with the 2" hex shafts) at the same time. My intention was to use the 15" to drill holes to plant trees. I have used the 9" bit a lot more than the 15" so far.
 
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I have a 12" and it works well for 6x6 posts and rr ties. IF I did a lot of smaller posts I would get a 6 or 9.

As far as the "down force kits" I am of the belief that they do little to nothing. The 3 point hitch floats so the lower links can't push down and I can't tell a difference when I engage the down force cylinder. IF it was really doing something you would feel the tractor try to lift when it engaged like what happens when you push down with the FEL. Simply extending that cylinder can't really do much IMO as the only down force is really the weight of the post hole digger which does not change by simply extending a cylinder. IF you want down force get a hydraulic auger and put it on the FEL.

Downforce kits for the 3pt PHDs only provide a few hundred pounds of force, not enough to lift any cat 1 tractor I'm aware of. They don't look right, but if you can visualize the leverage you'll see how they work.

A loader/bucket mounted hydraulic unit is superior though, at well over double the price of a good 3pt unit with a downforce kit. Better downforce & reverse when you corkscrew.
 
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When I bought our post hole digger (CountyLine from TSC) I picked up two augers (either a 6" or 9", and the 12") they had in stock ... and had them order a third (18") which was available but not stocked ...

I thought about getting the 24" which was available rather than the 18" ... but it cost a good bit more than post hole digger itself.

I mostly use them for landscaping ... digging planting holes ... don't have any fences on my property.

Definitely beats using a shovel.
 
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Downforce kits for the 3pt PHDs only provide a few hundred pounds of force, not enough to lift any cat 1 tractor I'm aware of. They don't look right, but if you can visualize the leverage you'll see how they work.

A loader/bucket mounted hydraulic unit is superior though, at well over double the price of a good 3pt unit with a downforce kit. Better downforce & reverse when you corkscrew.

I understand the concept I simply don't believe it does much good as if it was really pushing down with several hundred pounds of force you would feel it on the tractor like you can if you put even a little bit of down force on the front. I don't think that by simply extending that cylinder it gives several hundred pounds of additional down force during the entire dig. At best it gives you a little bit of down force right when you engage the cylinder but once it digs down any additional down force has been lost IMO.

+1 on the FEL mounted hydraulic unit. Much superior to the 3 point model
 
 
 
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