Wet set concrete anchor brackets pole barn

[747driver]

I am now down to a pole barn or 'red iron' building. My only major dislike on the pole barn is putting the post in the ground. I came across this foundation bracket today ( Forever Post wet set column bracket ). Really like it and could be a game changer. I knew about the Perma Column bracket but I think this is a much better product. They are $50 each and each weighs 23 Lbs.

Forever column wet and dry set post anchors - YouTube
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Forever column wet and dry set post anchors - YouTube

Item # SWP66, Sturdi-Wall Plus - Wet Set Concrete Anchor Brackets On Midwest Perma-Column


Has anyone used something like this ?

Thanks

 

[Redlands Okie]

Ya and works fine. Saves rotted out post. Get em as tall as you can for more post stability. Also thing about which way to install them for the most stability for your application. Siding or tin on the wall will prevent racking parallel to the wall.

 

[oosik]

I've seen those things - never knew their name - used on a poured pony wall. The structure was a LARGE hay storage shed.

 

[s219]

That looks like a great option, but I wouldn't be so concerned about putting poles in the ground if they are good quality treated wood and you have properly taken care of drainage around the barn. There are also those plastic sheaths you can put around the pole for added insurance. The rot issue will begin at ground level where water can collect, so if you can eliminate that issue, the rot problem should not be a concern.

No reason not to go with these anchors in poured footing piers, but don't let poles in the ground scare you.

 

[cat fever]

I agree with s219,
I have built 3 pole barns over 15 years. The first two were just dirt packed around the post. The last one I put concrete in the holes. Mostly because there were so many I couldn't bare the thought of tamping that many post with dirt.:laughing: I have no rot or any concerns with any of the barns.
Here's a couple pics of the poles being set. 6X8X18

 

[RNeumann]

You won’t get the sheer out of the brackets so you will need to incorporate that into the walls.
Btw- Simpson has been making brackets for years.

 

[747driver]

I agree with s219,
I have built 3 pole barns over 15 years. The first two were just dirt packed around the post. The last one I put concrete in the holes. Mostly because there were so many I couldn't bare the thought of tamping that many post with dirt.:laughing: I have no rot or any concerns with any of the barns.
Here's a couple pics of the poles being set. 6X8X18


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Thanks for the pics ! Very nice looking job. Are those 'wall side light panels ? I have then included in my plans, both sides. I have an addition to the home I put on 8x8 treated post 8 years ago....still looks good. They are pretty much sheltered from the rain. I am always looking for new products that make building better. If I get the post direct bury I will only put concrete in the bottom of the hole....those post will rot quicker if totally enclosed in concrete. If I was younger (66 ) I would do it myself, but getting on tall roofs is a chore !!

 

[747driver]

Ya and works fine. Saves rotted out post. Get em as tall as you can for more post stability. Also thing about which way to install them for the most stability for your application. Siding or tin on the wall will prevent racking parallel to the wall.

I would put diagonal bracing on the corners.

 

[747driver]

You won’t get the sheer out of the brackets so you will need to incorporate that into the walls.
Btw- Simpson has been making brackets for years.

Simpson doesn't make this type that I know of. Only a couple manufacturers make the wet set that has rebar attached and upper flange connecting with bolts. These Forever brackets are made with 1/4" steel. I would put diagonal bracing in each corner.

 

[cat fever]

Thanks for the pics ! Very nice looking job. Are those 'wall side light panels ? I have then included in my plans, both sides.

Yes, they come in 8' lengths. (I think, can't remember) We cut the size we wanted.
On a cloudy day with all the doors shut you could easily work inside without any additional light.
These pictures it was a sunny day but you can see how much light they let in.