Upgrading to larger tractor, which Kubota?

   / Upgrading to larger tractor, which Kubota? #1  

mikeysp

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Hi. I would be most grateful for advice, since we may spend in the neighborhood of $50K and I do not want to make a mistake by getting the wrong machine. We are in middle TN and leaning toward staying with Kubota.

I work part time for a gentleman on his 160 acre country home. He has a Kubota L2501 with loader and several implements and a zero turn mower for around the house. Property is mostly wooded. Has about 25 acres total mowing area. 3or 4 of those acres are mowed with the zero turn. We use the tractor every week. Since I only work 2 days a week for him, we want to make tractor work go faster and be much more practical. Took me 12 hours to bushog the ippper 10 acres a month back. Owber is ready to get a tractor more suitable for his property.

Bushogging or finish mowing is currently a very slow effort. Takes about an hour an acre to bush hog when we let a more remote field get taller. Even when we get to it beofre it is very tall, it is a snail pace do to lack of power.

Compactness is nice because of the ability to get in around obstacles. Prefer to do least amount of damage to grass when riding over it.

Neighbor has an MX5200 that we have borrowed once or twice and it has a lot more power.

I was considering a Loader Tractoir Backhoe 50 or 60 HP as they are apparently very tough. Also considering MX in the 50 or 60Hp range and then the L series in the 50-60 range. No matter I will get a backhoe attachment. I saw a video that showed mentioned the MX is more simple, yet beefier than the L series. And it also mentioned that the LTB are extremely robust for abusive environments.

Not sure if they are all equally easy/difficult to attach/detach backhoe, or if the LTB is easier?
The video mentioned that the MX might be tougher on the grass than the L series, so it made me wonder also.


Areas where tractor operates mostly is:
Bushogging 3 fields - 10, 6, 5 acres each
Bushogging one turkey hunting area with many bush/tree obstacles - 7 acres
Bushogging along embankment on 4 lakes from 1/8 acre to 5 acre lake/pond, also large levy for bigger lake.
Can also finish mow the 5 and 6 acre field instead of bushhogging.
Backhoe- Many tasks such as digging out smaller spring fed creek after severe rains/flooding that happens every few years or even twice this year.
Also have a chirt pit on property for repair work. Chirt is a soil, clay, rock composition that is all around this part of middle tennessee. All the dirt roads are made from this. Backhoe is needed to loosen this from pit wall.
Lifting and loading tasks abound.
Grapple: fallen trees, brosh, cleaning, trimming.

Thank you for your advice.

-Mike
 
   / Upgrading to larger tractor, which Kubota? #2  
I think you are on the right track size wise;The MX's have larger front wheels/tires and less frills than the Grand L's.Depends if you want to stay with the HST or go shuttle shift.
You may want to consider the M7060 or the new M4 series.
Can't help with the back-hoe.
 
   / Upgrading to larger tractor, which Kubota? #3  
An MX would be a very nice step up. And if you want to keep HST.....its the biggest you can get. Same frame size but more deluxe....if budget allows....look a the larger grand L's.
 
   / Upgrading to larger tractor, which Kubota? #4  
TLB won't mow, but the backhoe is the bees knees. I have an mx5200 and am thrilled with it every day. I love it.
 
   / Upgrading to larger tractor, which Kubota? #5  
TLB doesn't allow for backhoe removal iirc. I don't even know if it has a pto.

-i see there is a 3pt kit for it...i don't know now.
 
   / Upgrading to larger tractor, which Kubota? #6  
TLB doesn't allow for backhoe removal iirc. I don't even know if it has a pto.

-i see there is a 3pt kit for it...i don't know now.

A M62 will. A full-size won’t.
 
   / Upgrading to larger tractor, which Kubota? #7  
So, just to be clear some or all of the implements he has now may not be suitable. A lot of times you'll see 40 hp gear boxes on things for the L25's, the MX is pushing out more than that at the PTO so you'll have to consider that in the cost of upgrading.

50k will go quick if you want the tractor, backhoe, and any implements.
 
   / Upgrading to larger tractor, which Kubota? #8  
Here is a well developed thread on your topic:

 
   / Upgrading to larger tractor, which Kubota? #9  
Also considering Kubota MX in the 50 or 60Hp range and then the L series in the 50-60 range.

I saw a video that showed mentioned the MX is simpler, yet beefier than the L series.


The Kubota MX and Grand L series match in weight, model for model. MX and Grand L use the same engine. The Grand L series has a host of refinements over the MX, most especially the HST+ transmission. The refinements on a Grand L make using the tractor more pleasant. The refinements add complexity and cost -- no one who operates a Grand L regrets spending the money.

lf you want to pull a 12' - 15' "Batwing" Rotary Cutter/Bush Hog to speed up mowing relative to existing 5' equipment you will need 60 - 80 horsepower and a tractor weighing more than 4,000 pounds bare weight of the MX and Grand Ls.



The video mentioned that the MX might be tougher on the grass than the L series, so it made me wonder also.

No difference if identically equipped.

Backhoe- Many tasks such as digging out smaller spring fed creek after severe rains/flooding that happens every few years or even twice this year.
Also have a chirt pit on property for repair work. Chirt is a soil, clay, rock composition that is all around this part of middle tennessee. All the dirt roads are made from this. Backhoe is needed to loosen this from pit wall.


Standard Backhoes available as options on Kubota 4,000+ bare weight tractors are ample for these tasks.

Kubota also offers intermediate models. Perhaps these could be called 'Farm T-L-Bs'.........







Commercial T-L-Bs, usually called Loader/Backhoes, are construction equipment poorly suited to farm and land maintenance applications. The Backhoe usually is not removable. Many are 2-WD. Few have an optional Three Point Hitch for mowing. Many are geared down for construction work, therefore would be slow mowing. Heavy, heavy -- bog prone on soft ground.
 
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   / Upgrading to larger tractor, which Kubota? #10  
Perhaps you might like to test this tractor:

willy
 

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