Tube vs. Tubeless

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Milist

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I,m buying new tires for my kubota B2150 with rear tires filled with calcium chloride and no tubes. When the tire was taken off , I noticed rust on the rim but nowhere close to perforation. Is it worth it to add tubes at replacement time?
With tubes, I can't plug a leak but maybe the protection is worth it.
Also, the 2 tires I am considering(for yard and trail work) are Firestone's Turf and Field 5 bar which is 4 ply, or Titan's Multi- Trac which is 8 ply.
Any experience out there would be greatly appreciated.
 
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skip the tube and clean the rims and fill with the newer products that don't cause rust such a "rim guard" or "beet juice". I saw that you are in NH, Pinnacleview in Walpole (Keene area) installs one that is made from mollassis...... That is what they told me when they filled my tires....
 
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I've got tubes in all my tires, and they are filled. Works fine - but I haven't had to deal with a puncture since the tubes went in (had 'em all the time before).

But if you haven't checked in to it I'd suggest you think about having your tires filled with foam. Heavier than most other fill products and will ensure no more flats. But quite expensive, naturally /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif...
 
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if the price difference is not outlandish i would lean toward the 8 ply. if u need to have them loaded ,go with one of the non corrosive type fillings.
 
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Before I would just let the plys make up my mind, I would want to see what the difference was in the tires. As a tire dealer told me one time, when I was buying tires, and said I thought I should have more plys. He told me, its all in what the plys are made of, and how strong they were. He went on to tell me that 2 plys might be as strong as 6, it was all in what the plys were, what they were made of and how thick they were. It made sense to me, still does. So I would ask for some reason the 8 might be better. We always think they would be, and that would be right, if they were the same material and thickness, but if not maybe not. Just my 2 cents worth
 
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I have multi trac tires on my 990 and I believe they are 4 or 6 ply. Do they now make 8 ply ones?
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I have multi trac tires on my 990 and I believe they are 4 or 6 ply. Do they now make 8 ply ones? )</font>

Most of the "Titan TracLoader" tires I have seen (R4's) are 6 ply.
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( He told me, its all in what the plys are made of, and how strong they were. )</font>

Well said. Nylon cord is the weakest but most comfortable, polyester are stronger but less comfortable, Aramid (Kevlar) is the strongest and stiffest. Kevlar has an elastic modulus similar to very hard steel.
 
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I would suggest you run tubes in your loaded tires. I just replaced the calcum loaded rears on my Ford 2120 which had tubes and there was a fair amount of corrussion near the valve stem. they have always had tubes. You may want to give Galaxy tite in Malden Mass a call for your tires. They are a manufacturer an didstributor. I got the best price there. galaxytire.com Ask for Kevin

Andy
 

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