trouble finding td95d filters

[WTA]

I'm trying to cross the factory filters so I can go buy them all from a baldwin store tomorrow. My tractor is a 07 TD95D with the iveco engine. I am running into problems with the cross from the dealer supplied filters on it now. They probably gave me the wrong ones knowing them but anyway.....
The cross reference is telling me B7219 for the oil filter (exc tier 2 engines)

The NH filter on it (purchased from the dealer last year) crosses to a BT267. Something ain't right!

The hydraulic filter the dealer gave me last year has a case pn1931127 which doesn't even have a baldwin cross but if I cross to fleetright then to baldwin I get bt470. Does that sound ok?

I think I have the air filters figured out and the fuel filters but these two are messing me up. Can anyone help me out so I get the right stuff? Thanks a lot! I don't even know the difference between a tier 1 2 or 4 engine and I have been told by the dealer at different times by different parts people I have each of them.......... Anyone know what it really is?

 

[Jerry/MT]

I'm trying to cross the factory filters so I can go buy them all from a baldwin store tomorrow. My tractor is a 07 TD95D with the iveco engine. I am running into problems with the cross from the dealer supplied filters on it now. They probably gave me the wrong ones knowing them but anyway.....
The cross reference is telling me B7219 for the oil filter (exc tier 2 engines)

The NH filter on it (purchased from the dealer last year) crosses to a BT267. Something ain't right!

The hydraulic filter the dealer gave me last year has a case pn1931127 which doesn't even have a baldwin cross but if I cross to fleetright then to baldwin I get bt470. Does that sound ok?

I think I have the air filters figured out and the fuel filters but these two are messing me up. Can anyone help me out so I get the right stuff? Thanks a lot! I don't even know the difference between a tier 1 2 or 4 engine and I have been told by the dealer at different times by different parts people I have each of them.......... Anyone know what it really is?

Here's what Ii have found for 2007 TD95D filters


TD95D Filters
Engine Lube
New Holland Baldwin Wix NAPA Fleetguard

47135703 B7219 57075 7075


Hydraulic
1909130 BT470 51798 1798 HF7569

Water Separator
1930581(1)(W/S) BF1361 33801 3801 FS19504


There may be some updates because I haven't checked the online catalog for a few months.

I was going to order some engine lube filters from from Partspring but their catalog kept saying "not available" when i input the NH part number. I sent them an email and they said there was a different part number and that the 47135703 was obsolete. IIRC the new number is an 8XXXXX number. I said how was I supposed to know that, by osmosis? They said that they were working on getting that to occur automatically when you put the old part number in. You''d think something as common as a lube oil filter would be easy to locate. Those and the fuel filters are the most replaced on tractors. Anyway, you might check with the Partspring sight and see if they have a new part number.

I bought the lube filter from my NH dealer because I was confused by the "except Tier II engine" As I understand it, all the US sold TD95D's for 2007 have the Tier II engine. I also bought the hydraulic filter from NH and IIRC, I believe it was the Fleetguard filter.

Here's a web site for Wix filters: Home page I bought a whole slew of filters, especially fuel filters,from them earlier this year so I can have them available.

Hope this helps.

 

[WTA]

I was just on the parts diagram for new holland and so far the pictures for what is on mine when I'm looking at the different filters are not looking like the tier 2. For example mine has an oil cooler under the oil filter. The tier 2 engine doesn't show that. On my hydraulic filter the adapter has a pipe that goes straight out the rear with a reducing hose to the pipe. The T2 turns down. Boy this is weird!!!

So far I have hydr: 1909130, oil: 47135703, fuel seperator: 84217953

baldwin numbers for those three are bt470, b7219, bf1361

I'm still looking for the others. Thanks a lot for your time looking it up too!!! I must have a weird tractor is all I can say. It has some equipment that only comes on euro models and some that is only us models. Messicks just ran my serial number and they said it is a td95d upgrade tractor. That still leaves me 2 options for all the filters though. Is there a way to positively ID a tier 2 engine?
2 different fuel filters are listed by new holland. They say C6660 and D6660 out next to them. I have no idea what that means.

 

[Jerry/MT]

I was just on the parts diagram for new holland and so far the pictures for what is on mine when I'm looking at the different filters are not looking like the tier 2. For example mine has an oil cooler under the oil filter. The tier 2 engine doesn't show that. On my hydraulic filter the adapter has a pipe that goes straight out the rear with a reducing hose to the pipe. The T2 turns down. Boy this is weird!!!

So far I have hydr: 1909130, oil: 47135703, fuel seperator: 84217953

baldwin numbers for those three are bt470, b7219, bf1361

I'm still looking for the others. Thanks a lot for your time looking it up too!!! I must have a weird tractor is all I can say. It has some equipment that only comes on euro models and some that is only us models. Messicks just ran my serial number and they said it is a td95d upgrade tractor. That still leaves me 2 options for all the filters though. Is there a way to positively ID a tier 2 engine?
2 different fuel filters are listed by new holland. They say C6660 and D6660 out next to them. I have no idea what that means.

I sent my tractor serial number to my local dealer and they said it was a Tier II engine. I'm a "belt and suspender guy" when it comes to new equipment and I asked RickB , a regular contributor on this forum and a NH tech. He independently verified the serial number as being from a Tier II machine. You might holler for RickB or Jbrink64, another NH tech. They might be able to clarify the situation.

I will be following this closely as I have the same machine you have. It's kind of frustrating having to go through this. I think with all the mergers, CNH is still in a state of confusion . But for us operators, it's really important to get these critical part numbers right. If I can do anything to help you, let me know.

 

[WTA]

I appreciate the help. I managed to get all the part numbers and crossed them to baldwin numbers. I'll post them all later after I get them and verify they are correct. I think I got it right. The fuel, oil and hydraulic filters all have two different numbers depending on tier 2 or not. Only judging by the pictures, because there are absolutely no numbers or anything other than the serial number that will positively id it as a tier 2. Messics said mine was the upgrade version so.... I got all the ones for the upgrade. Whatever that means. They all seemed right on my tractor other than the hydraulic filter. I had a mess of a time a couple years ago with our local dealer, CNH and the BBB over this tractor. I've lost faith in this company bad but I do love this tractor. I haven't had any major problems with it since the fuel pump that took the dealer 3 months to replace. And I had to make a new AC bracket, time it properly and properly repair cut wires after I got it back. What hacks they were here! I want to keep it running right for a long time but I will rely on Messicks, who has earned my trust, and aftermarket parts from now on. We're changing the hydraulic fluid and all the filters today. I was going to use all baldwin filters and traveller universal trans/hyd fluid. It meets all the same specs as the stuff the book calls for for about half the price! I also plan to blow out all the hydraulic lines and cylinders on all of my equipment. This is going to take about 35-40 gallons I think! I had been loaning stuff to a neighbor with an old JD tractor that uses 30w oil in the hydraulics. Or at least he does. It took me a while to figure out why my brakes got a little grabby and the hydraulics got noisy till warmed up. I've been a mechanic a long time and should have known better. live and learn.

 

[Jerry/MT]

I appreciate the help. I managed to get all the part numbers and crossed them to baldwin numbers. I'll post them all later after I get them and verify they are correct. I think I got it right. The fuel, oil and hydraulic filters all have two different numbers depending on tier 2 or not. Only judging by the pictures, because there are absolutely no numbers or anything other than the serial number that will positively id it as a tier 2. Messics said mine was the upgrade version so.... I got all the ones for the upgrade. Whatever that means. They all seemed right on my tractor other than the hydraulic filter. I had a mess of a time a couple years ago with our local dealer, CNH and the BBB over this tractor. I've lost faith in this company bad but I do love this tractor. I haven't had any major problems with it since the fuel pump that took the dealer 3 months to replace. And I had to make a new AC bracket, time it properly and properly repair cut wires after I got it back. What hacks they were here! I want to keep it running right for a long time but I will rely on Messicks, who has earned my trust, and aftermarket parts from now on. We're changing the hydraulic fluid and all the filters today. I was going to use all baldwin filters and traveller universal trans/hyd fluid. It meets all the same specs as the stuff the book calls for for about half the price! I also plan to blow out all the hydraulic lines and cylinders on all of my equipment. This is going to take about 35-40 gallons I think! I had been loaning stuff to a neighbor with an old JD tractor that uses 30w oil in the hydraulics. Or at least he does. It took me a while to figure out why my brakes got a little grabby and the hydraulics got noisy till warmed up. I've been a mechanic a long time and should have known better. live and learn.

I'll look forward to seeing your filter list and comparing it to mine.

Are you sure that the fluid you are planning to use meets the M2C134G spec? I haven't seen anything in my neck of the woods that does except the stuff from NH.

 

[WTA]

I ended up going with this extreme brand universal oil from the filter store. It was a couple bucks more than traveller but met a lot more specs than traveller. Still It doesn't meet that one specifically, I wonder why, But it does meet JD, case, Kubota super UDT, CNH and a bunch of others. Good enough for me. The td series is so darn close to the International the same size that I'm really not going to worry about it. It does meet international spec for sure. It's amazing the similarities between them.
Anyway, My brakes work better now and area a whole lot quieter!
I found out there are 4 drains underneath. The book only lists 2!!! That ticked me off. One under the FWD gear, one forward of that about a foot and two behind it. It looks like another one on the left side right above the lift arm but I didn't pull it because that one was an allen head and I didn't have a wrench big enough. Looked like a 14mm.
I got out 10 gallons and it took exactly 13 to refill so I'm confident I got almost all of it. I have enough left to do the final drives and front axle but it got cold today so I'm waiting.
All the filters did fit and work great. Here's the part numbers.
All are Baldwin brand.
Hydraulic filter: BT470
Oil filter: B7219
fuel seperator: BF1361
Fuel filter: BF5587-D
Inner air: RS3545
Outer air: RS 3544

 

[Jerry/MT]

I ended up going with this extreme brand universal oil from the filter store. It was a couple bucks more than traveller but met a lot more specs than traveller. Still It doesn't meet that one specifically, I wonder why, But it does meet JD, case, Kubota super UDT, CNH and a bunch of others. Good enough for me. The td series is so darn close to the International the same size that I'm really not going to worry about it. It does meet international spec for sure. It's amazing the similarities between them.
Anyway, My brakes work better now and area a whole lot quieter!
I found out there are 4 drains underneath. The book only lists 2!!! That ticked me off. One under the FWD gear, one forward of that about a foot and two behind it. It looks like another one on the left side right above the lift arm but I didn't pull it because that one was an allen head and I didn't have a wrench big enough. Looked like a 14mm.
I got out 10 gallons and it took exactly 13 to refill so I'm confident I got almost all of it. I have enough left to do the final drives and front axle but it got cold today so I'm waiting.
All the filters did fit and work great. Here's the part numbers.
All are Baldwin brand.
Hydraulic filter: BT470
Oil filter: B7219
fuel seperator: BF1361
Fuel filter: BF5587-D
Inner air: RS3545
Outer air: RS 3544

Those agree with the Baldwin's on my list.

If th UTF you bought meets a CNH spec(NH is part of CNH) I wonder why it doesn't meet the Ford M2C134G spec. I'll bet there is a CNH spec number that that is compatible with the old Ford spec. I bought a pail of NH stuff and I think there is NH spec number on it. I'll look tomorrow and post it if I find it. I can't believe that we'd be left with only one source for UTF for our tractors!

 

[banjodunn]

G'day yes NH are a right pain for changing numbers on filters etc .... it seems every time they bring a new model out they have to give the same filter a new number :confused2::confused2: I keep cards on all the stuff i service for my regular clients and some of them have 3 or 4 number changes in the last 4 years. The C6660 and D 6660 refer to a serial number break for a parts change which unfortunately you cannot access online this is only avail to a dealer. I was looking up some cab filters today for a T6070 only to find a serial no break and a part # change as well, after about ten minutes of going to and fro from one program to the other i found out that that the serial # break only bought a new part # for the same filter . I think i want to stay in the workshop and get out of spares


Jon

 

[WTA]

I think NH does this junk with the fluid spec just to be propitiatory. It's illegal in this country though. Wonder if they know that. In order for a company to require something that can only come from them they have to give it to you for free. Like PCV valves on cars. Manufactures will give them to you for free because the government says they have to be replaced every so often. At least they used to do that.

Anyway, There is absolutely nothing inside the rear end or hydraulic system made of some space age materials that require overpriced fluid available only at new holland. If it's good for Kubota or case or CNH newer tractors then it's good in a new holland too. I'm not spending twice as much on anything if I can help it.