Tractor scams right here???

[rickster]

I was Looking through the classifieds site here a minute ago and found this! 2008 KUBOTA BX24D 4X4 LOADER BACKHOE asking $4200 NO LIFT ARMS , REAR 3 POINT LIFT , BT601 BACKHOE , R4 INDUSTRIAL TIRES , LA240 QUICK ATTACH FRONTEND LOADER , DIFF LOCK , 2 POST FOLDOWN ROLLOVER BAR , REAR AND MID PTOS , HYDROSTATIC DRIVE WITH HI AND LOW RANGE , 23 HP , POWER STEERING , 3 CYL DIESEL ENGINE
On December 16, 2008, fredcalman added:

For a fast reply please email me at my home/work email : fredcalman@yahoo.com .

Thanks for looking ! WOW! takes a lot of ***** to post a scam right here!

 

[Ductape]

Yep..... they show up here, just like Ebay or CL. Best thing to do is PM a moderator and they will have it removed.

 

[jimmyj]

Said it before, say it again.

I hate crooks!

 

[Bird]

Unfotunately, most of us moderators can't change things in the CLASSIFIEDS, but I'm sure Muhammad will take care of it when he sees it.

 

[CCWKen]

The real one is on ebay for $14.6k. Appearantly someone has swiped the ad material from the ebay listing and posted it all over the place. The "scam" listings are on TractorByNet, Craigslist(x2), FarmTrader, TractorHouse and a couple of others.

If it sounds too good to be true, it usually is. A simple Google search on some of the key words pops up the obvious scam listings. I used: "NO LIFT ARMS , REAR 3 POINT LIFT , BT601 BACKHOE".

I do this for all the things I'm interested in just to check if they're listed at multiple locations or by different people.

 

[MikePA]

WOW! takes a lot of ***** to post a scam right here!

As most people have already seen, TBN gets it's share of SPAMMERs, so the fact the same human debris post bogus classified ads shouldn't be a surprise.

Just as it's not possible for Moderators to review every post for SPAM, the Administrators can't review every classified ad to confirm it's legitimate. So as with SPAM (Click Here), we count on fellow citizens of TBN to see these things and report them. Moderators can handle the SPAM, but problems in the Classifieds must be reported via PM to Muhammad.

 

[EddieWalker]

One of the clues is that it's under $5,000

Like the others have said, if it's too good to be true, then it is.

Eddie

 

[PILOON]

One of the clues is that it's under $5,000


Eddie

Well not necessarily so.

My buddy just bought a B7100 c/w FEL and bush hog, a bit rough all around but nothing TLC could not fix.

The price was $2000! (Cdn$ = maybe $1600.US)

And that's not just BS, as I was present when offer and acceptance was made!

 

[CCWKen]

And I paid $2500 for my 86 Ford 3910. There's a difference between a 2008 BX24D an early 90's B7100. The BX also has a backhoe as well as a FEL. Paying $2k for a $3.5k machine is not out of line. It raises more suspicion when the "owner" of a near-new machine is asking 4k for 15k+ machine though.

 

[DWCox]

People are getting pretty brazen of late. I went to purchase an off-road motorcycle through Craigslist about two years ago. The buyer had it in possession locally and everything was set to go at a really good price. While you are not required to register off-road motorcycles, the manufacturer still provides a title for ownership purposes. When I finally asked him for this title you would have thought I had pulled a gun on him from his reaction. The bike was not stolen (yet), but it appears someone still owed the bank for the note on it.

Since that incident, my second question on any such type of purchase is always, "Do you have proof of ownership?"

 

[zzvyb6]

I'm confused (as usual). What part is the scam? Is it the unbelievable low price, a typo (would it be ok if it were $14,200), a divorce, a scam to show lower value by buying it from his brother to show lowered value, stolen, or what?

I buy stuff from Craigslist all the time. You get a real contact (phone number and street adress, go see it, decide what its worth, make a counter offer and take it or leave it). lots of stuff here in Michigan that being left at the side of the road as families walk away from the state with just all they can stuff into a U-Haul truck. A tractor don't fit real well in a moving van.

Please explain this one. Thanks.

 

[shvl73]

I'm confused (as usual). What part is the scam? Is it the unbelievable low price, a typo (would it be ok if it were $14,200), a divorce, a scam to show lower value by buying it from his brother to show lowered value, stolen, or what?

I buy stuff from Craigslist all the time. You get a real contact (phone number and street adress, go see it, decide what its worth, make a counter offer and take it or leave it). lots of stuff here in Michigan that being left at the side of the road as families walk away from the state with just all they can stuff into a U-Haul truck. A tractor don't fit real well in a moving van.

Please explain this one. Thanks.

What I see all the time on craigslist is a tractor that should sell @ 10-15K advertised for under 5K. The ad always includes an e-mail address that does not go through craigslist. I do not know the point of these ads. I'm not sure if it a ruse to somehow get you to wire the $ to a foreign bank or simply to get your actual e-mail address and flood you with spam.

 

[shvl73]

While looking for a horse trailer recently, I found one that would be in the 8-10K range advertised for $3800 with a (semi-local to me) Boston area address. I responded and the reply stated it was located in northern California but, the price included delivery east. Yeah, right.

 

[flusher]

I was Looking through the classifieds site here a minute ago and found this! 2008 KUBOTA BX24D 4X4 LOADER BACKHOE asking $4200 NO LIFT ARMS , REAR 3 POINT LIFT , BT601 BACKHOE , R4 INDUSTRIAL TIRES , LA240 QUICK ATTACH FRONTEND LOADER , DIFF LOCK , 2 POST FOLDOWN ROLLOVER BAR , REAR AND MID PTOS , HYDROSTATIC DRIVE WITH HI AND LOW RANGE , 23 HP , POWER STEERING , 3 CYL DIESEL ENGINE
On December 16, 2008, fredcalman added:

For a fast reply please email me at my home/work email : fredcalman@yahoo.com .

Thanks for looking ! WOW! takes a lot of ***** to post a scam right here!

The model year and the price are the scam alerts--they are disconnected. Easy to spot if you have been watching tractor and implement prices on eBay, CL, in the local classifieds, etc.

For tractors without implements I always check the latest edition of the tractor blue book before contacting the seller.

Getting a handle on implement prices is generally not so straightforward. That's why watching implement prices (asking and selling) on eBay is an excellent way to get educated.

No substitute for doing your homework before shelling out your hard earned bucks.