TOW POINTS

[oldmuddyboots]

I had a 2010 Kubota BX25 TLB. It was in the EF-5 tornado in Joplin, Missouri. 16 dead people were found in one spot 500 feet from it to put things in perspective of the power of the destruction. Not a house, car, or tree made it in it's path of destruction with a total death toll of 159 people. My little Kubota was also in its path. It was nose end first into the earth with the FEL halfway burried. The wheels, roll cage, and every body component has been damaged. Kubota Insurance is worthless and as well as the local dealership who I did NOT buy it from. The local dealership's delivery guy said it needs to be totaled. However, the insurance company does not want to total it thanks to the local dealership, go figure. The delivery guy then strapped a chain around the front axle, wheel, and steering component and drug it deeper and sideways through the earth. It took him about 30 minutes to actually get it loaded. As he was dragging it, it came up off the ground on the opposite rear side. Is the axle, wheel, hub assembly area a STANDARD, SAFE AND APPROPIATE tow point on a tractor? Would his technique be considered abuse or added stress to the the tire, wheel, steering links, axle and hub area in that area? Should he have used the actual designated tow points on the unit rather than the wheel and axle? Remember he did say 妬t needs to be totaled?
Thanks!

 

[Don87]

I had a 2010 Kubota BX25 TLB. It was in the EF-5 tornado in Joplin, Missouri. 16 dead people were found in one spot 500 feet from it to put things in perspective of the power of the destruction. Not a house, car, or tree made it in it's path of destruction with a total death toll of 159 people. My little Kubota was also in its path. It was nose end first into the earth with the FEL halfway burried. The wheels, roll cage, and every body component has been damaged. Kubota Insurance is worthless and as well as the local dealership who I did NOT buy it from. The local dealership's delivery guy said it needs to be totaled. However, the insurance company does not want to total it thanks to the local dealership, go figure. The delivery guy then strapped a chain around the front axle, wheel, and steering component and drug it deeper and sideways through the earth. It took him about 30 minutes to actually get it loaded. As he was dragging it, it came up off the ground on the opposite rear side. Is the axle, wheel, hub assembly area a STANDARD, SAFE AND APPROPIATE tow point on a tractor? Would his technique be considered abuse or added stress to the the tire, wheel, steering links, axle and hub area in that area? Should he have used the actual designated tow points on the unit rather than the wheel and axle? Remember he did say 妬t needs to be totaled?
Thanks!

Sometimes that is impossible........It all depends on the location of the unit, the angle it entered the ground, ETC. Without seeing actual footage of the removal process, it's hard to say for sure. And even seeing video of the process still wouldn't give a 100% conclusion..........it's one of those cases where..........Ya gotta be there.

 

[oldmuddyboots]

It was in the driveway with access on the front or rear side. It was also in an upright position. And thanks for the quick reply!

 

[Don87]

I had a 2010 Kubota BX25 TLB. It was in the EF-5 tornado in Joplin, Missouri. 16 dead people were found in one spot 500 feet from it to put things in perspective of the power of the destruction. Not a house, car, or tree made it in it's path of destruction with a total death toll of 159 people. My little Kubota was also in its path. It was nose end first into the earth with the FEL halfway burried. The wheels, roll cage, and every body component has been damaged. Kubota Insurance is worthless and as well as the local dealership who I did NOT buy it from. The local dealership's delivery guy said it needs to be totaled. However, the insurance company does not want to total it thanks to the local dealership, go figure. The delivery guy then strapped a chain around the front axle, wheel, and steering component and drug it deeper and sideways through the earth. It took him about 30 minutes to actually get it loaded. As he was dragging it, it came up off the ground on the opposite rear side. Is the axle, wheel, hub assembly area a STANDARD, SAFE AND APPROPIATE tow point on a tractor? Would his technique be considered abuse or added stress to the the tire, wheel, steering links, axle and hub area in that area? Should he have used the actual designated tow points on the unit rather than the wheel and axle? Remember he did say 妬t needs to be totaled?
Thanks!

Body parts on a tractor aren't that much actually........basically cosmetic is all.

Is the frame bent? loader arms bent? Backhoe boom bent?

With the wheels being bent, I would be suspect of bent axles, or other hidden damage.

 

[Don87]

It was in the driveway with access on the front or rear side. It was also in an upright position. And thanks for the quick reply!

It's always best to pull a tractor from the rear........but with that said........it depends on quite a few factors, just keep in mind.......what's best isn't always feasible.

You also stated the the FEL was buried halfway into the ground.........which would make pulling from the front of the tractor an impossibility.

 

[Don87]

Kubota Insurance is worthless and as well as the local dealership who I did NOT buy it from. The local dealership's delivery guy said it needs to be totaled. However, the insurance company does not want to total it thanks to the local dealership

I'm not quite understanding this part.

If Kubota insurance is fixing it, then they are worth something.

But the next question would be.............What does the dealership have to do with it? Didn't an insurance adjuster look at the machine? I've not seen any instances where a dealership plays much of a role in insurance claims.........other than to do repairs.

 

[Don87]

Sorry for making so many seperate posts(I'm not good at multiquotes), but, I have one last question for now.

Your first line says "I had a 2010 Kubota BX25 TLB". ........Do you still own it?

 

[oldmuddyboots]

No problem. I do still own it. The insurance adjuster does NOT look at it. She is in Georgia. I am in Missouri. I feel this dealership has played a major role in this insurance claim. They do all the estimating and report to the insurance company. They are rude and inconsiderate. It could have been VERY easily pulled from the rear. It could have been pulled from the front by releasing pressure off the FEL and using a simple jack and hand shovel if you had to. That is why I am baffled as to why he did not attempt to drag it from the rear instead of the side! They do not know its mechanical state because it does not run. There is a high possibility of frame damage and whatever else may be found along with electrical components. It was a brand new tractor that has been abused and tossed around like a toy in an EF-5 tornado. I don't want to be stuck paying $15,000 for a wrecked, repaired, unknown hour tractor. Would you? It's going to be hard to sell when I disclose it was in the seventh-deadliest single tornado in U.S. History since 1947, and 27th-deadliest in World history.
Thanks!

 

[Stihlrunner]

Why dont you take it to another dealer? Will your homeowners participate at all?

I would worry less about how they drug it out and worry more about having a compete inspection done. Insist the dealer, or wherever you take it, remove wheels, hubs, drums etc and perform a complete inspection.

 

[Don87]

No problem. I do still own it. The insurance adjuster does NOT look at it. She is in Georgia. I am in Missouri. I feel this dealership has played a major role in this insurance claim. They do all the estimating and report to the insurance company. They are rude and inconsiderate. It could have been VERY easily pulled from the rear. It could have been pulled from the front by releasing pressure off the FEL and using a simple jack and hand shovel if you had to. That is why I am baffled as to why he did not attempt to drag it from the rear instead of the side! They do not know its mechanical state because it does not run. There is a high possibility of frame damage and whatever else may be found along with electrical components. It was a brand new tractor that has been abused and tossed around like a toy in an EF-5 tornado. I don't want to be stuck paying $15,000 for a wrecked, repaired, unknown hour tractor. Would you? It's going to be hard to sell when I disclose it was in the seventh-deadliest single tornado in U.S. History since 1947, and 27th-deadliest in World history.
Thanks!

Calm down. Getting upset with us will not help you at all.

Ya gotta remember, we don't know you at all, and your first post is bashing a Kubota dealer, and Kubota insurance.

As far as hours on the machine..........I'm sure you know how many hours are on it, and if the tractor won't start........the hours can't go up much.

As stihlrunner suggested.......is there a possibility of taking the tractor to another dealer?

Can you possibly supply us with pictures?