Too Much Power?

[Greg - Kioti CK20 TLB]

Hey Guys,

Just a little update on my CK20 TLB...I think a may have a small problem. The KB2365 Backhoe may be too powerful! Now I know that it violates every man rule in existence to admit that a tool may be too powerful but that bad boy BH tosses my little CK20 around like a rag doll!

I've been digging out stumps the last two days and when the bucket grabs a root it cannot break I can feel the front of the tractor lift off the ground. I also find it very easy to drag the tractor back-wards with the backhoe when I grab hold of a stubborn stump!

I'm now very seriously considering buying the optional feet for the stabilizer pads, even if they are $65 apiece. I thought it was odd the first time I looked at the stabilizer pads and saw how smooth they are...not sure why they are designed this way.

I agonized between a CK20 and a CK25 for a long time and finally my lovely wife convinced me that the Ck20 was "cuter" and would fit on our small parcel better than the "big" one. Our main concern was that we wanted to make some walking trails on our heavy wooded property and we wanted to cut as few trees as possible, so smaller tractor = more trees saved.

Man, I wish I would have "super-sized" and gone for the CK25 or CK30.

Don't get me wrong, too much power is usually not something to complain about! But I could definitely use a little more weight/ballast.

Yes, I've got pic's! Let me preface this by saying that these are not the most impressive stumps ever posted on TBN. It's still alot of fun though! I mean work, alot of work!

 

[albmn10]

Hey Greg, never complain about having too much power..hehe, But seriously, does the kb65 have reversable feet? I have the Woods 80xt hoe on my Ck30 and the feet are flat on one side for pavement , and slotted for gripping the ground on the other. If i use the backhoe with the flat shoes on soft ground, the machine will drag around pretty easily. When using the slotted side , the outriggers will bite in nicely, keeping me somewhat where i want to be. Just curious... Matt

 

[Greg - Kioti CK20 TLB]

Hi Matt,

Reversible stabilizers? I don't think so but I'll check it out tomorrow to be sure. I looked once before to see if I could move them and didn't see any obvious way to remove and reinstall them.

I seem to recall reading a similar thread about the Kioti backhoe stabilizer pads and even have seen some homemade feet but I don't own a welder to make my own.

Perhaps another Kioti BH owner can answer the question about reversible feet?

 

[Steverino]

Try getting a load of gravel in the front buck for some weight or add front-end weights. That should help keep it down. On the ck30 the pad are reversible without removing the by pulling the stop pin and flipping them over.

 

[Dmace]

Reversible feet ? Not that I know of.

My fix to the backhoe tossing the tractor around is straping it to a big truck. Works like a charm.

Good Job on the stumps, the pics look good!

 

[Greg - Kioti CK20 TLB]

Steverino -->> I noticed that my stabilizer feet have a removable pin but I don't know why. I'll check and see if I remove the pin if I can rotate the feet to give me more bite.

Derek -->> You just saw this as an opportunity to post a picture of you awesome truck! I'd love to have a Ram (either Patriot Blue or Inferno Red). Your pic's are the reason I said my stumps weren't the most impressive ones ever posted on TBN! Nice job on the 22" Oak. By the way, are your FEL bucket hooks welded on or did you just use bolts? Can I drill through the bucket with a cordless drill? I'd like to have one or two hooks but I don't have a welder and my property doesn't have electricity.

Thanks for the replies.

 

[weesa20]

I had the same problem with a Kubota B21...I was digging a midsized loblolly pine and the hoe tossed the tractor around, even with the "gripping" feet. I wasn't very impressed by the B21 but maybe my expectations were too high. Could have been operator error as well.

W

 

[cgraham]

Newbie; add fluid to tires?

How does the Ck series compare in cost & function (& HP) to the LB1914 and LK3054 (I'm confused by the many model numbers)? Trying to find out what to look for to maintain hard gravel and rock driveway, used OK. Drifting OT, sorry.

C

 

[Greg - Kioti CK20 TLB]

Hi C,

Good thought on the loaded tires, I'll have to check with my dealer to see if they have fluid in them now. I orginally thought that they would be filled because of the loader, but who knows?

The LB1914 appears to be a slightly older style tractor than the CK20. The LB1914 has 19 HP and weighs 2,100 lbs for the tractor alone. The CK20 has 21 HP and weighs 1,900 lbs for the tractor alone. The Ck20 has a more "modern" design along with the HST transmission option. Based on my crude analysis, the LB1914 is an older model but equivalent to the CK20 in size and power, whereas the LK3054 is roughly equivalent to the CK30.

 

[sodamo]

I recently dug a smallish hole, roughly 20'X20', 5-7 feet deep, with my CK30. I found reducing my rpm's gave me greater bh control without any loss of power. I think I settled around 1800 for most of the bh work.

David