Time to replace the JD318. Opinions on BX series?

[smartguyz]

Gentlemen,

I need to replace my trusty JD318. I enjoy it a lot, but it is clear that my needs have exceeded its capabilities. My situation: 2.04 acres of property, approximately 60% extensively landscaped (e.g. requires 7-8 units of bark chips for mulch - about 60 yards, plus another 1.5 units of cedar chips for the kids play area.) About 20 trees to maintain, and the rest is forested. Sitting on the side of a small mountain - has areas of slopes (I really need the 4WD and bar tires - the JD318 can get around, but I need to be very careful, and sometimes I need to ask my wife to work the tractor while I push it out when stuck!), about 9000 SF of fine grass, and loads of bushes, rhodys, azaleas, etc. Has terraces, fruit tree orchard, and vegetable garden. The JD318 has a JohnnyBucket on it, and a 50" MMM with PowerFlo. It's just a bit small for moving all that mulch every year, not to mention moving up into the steeper parts!

I expect 60-70% mowing, and the rest in loader work, moving mulch, trees, etc.

I am looking at a BX1500 with 48" MMM, FEL, and bagger assembly. Does anyone have this setup? The dealer (small one in Hillsboro, OR) is pushing me towards the BX2200, saying the bagger has more power when mowing (i.e. power requirements when bagging, mowing, and moving tractor up a slope) BTW, he doesn't carry the BX1800, but I suppose I could order one. He says the BX1500 will not have enough umph to do it. I'm a bit doubtful, as my JD318 (a 17-year old gas Deere with a PowerFlo bagger) does just fine - and this seems to be a much stouter, more powerful machine with a lot more torque. He says the power available at the PTO (which runs the bagger blower) is not a lot.

So - what do you guys think?

Anyone have the FEL? How does it do? Any troubles?

The 3 cylinder BX2200 seems REALLY smooth, although the BX1500 is not too bad. Anyone regret getting/not getting the BX1500 due to excessive vibration or lack of power?

How about the mower? He is pushing the 60" MMM (claims torsion bars are wonderful - floating deck cuts a lot better) - and thus the BX2000, since the BX1500 can't take the 60". What do you think?

Anyone have the bagger with the BX1500? Does it work OK?

Your opinions are read with great care, and will be used to help in the decision. I like the small size of the BX1500 - I think it will fit in my shed even (that's where the JD318 is now, although I do need to take the MMM off - it won't clear the double-doors.) I must say, being a JD guy, I am VERY impressed with what I saw at the Kubota dealership.

Inquiring minds want to know!

Thanks so much!

Rob /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

 

[TresCrows]

Get the 2200 with FEL and 60 inch MMM. I don't think the 1500 would be enough for your needs and allow for "growth" in your expectations. You might also look at the new JD 2210 built for them by Yanamar. J

 

[Anonymous Poster]

The bx2200 is the best machine I've ever had for negotiating hills. On the worst hill I have to mow, I used to slide down it on smaller machines. With the bx, I can stop in the middle of the hill with no problem in 2wd! The fel is quick, and the 54"mmm gives a good finish. The bar tires are great but may leave some impressions on the lawn when its wet. I'm looking to get a set of turfs for mowing in wet weather.
I've been very happy so far with the machine and have had no problems.
Hope this helps.
DaveL

 

[hogboy]

Re: Time to replace the JD318. Opinions on BX ser

Rob, here's my 2 cents. Last year I replaced a JD322 with the BX2200. The 322 was an overall good tractor. I only bought the FEL and 60 MMM with the BX2200. The 60 MMM gives a terrific cut and is extremely quiet with the shaft drive. The 4x4 is great when you need it. Your fuel consumption will probably be cut in half with the BX. The torque on the diesel is great. One suggestion, (if you are tall or have a back problem) you may want to consider having the dealer swap out the stock seat for a seat off a B2410. This will give you more back support and a tad more leg room. I am very happy with my purchase and the BX has performed flawlessly. If you are doing a lot of loader work you may or may not have to put tubes in the front tires. Something about the half inch size of the rims. Some folks have had problems breaking the bead. I had to do this on just my left front so far and it has not been a problem since.
The BX2200 is one tough little beast. Go for the roses.

 

[Charliebrn]

While the BX1500 may do what you need, remember that it is quite a bit heavier than your old JD, and it'll be running things like the 4wd that the JD didn't have, so you can't really compare them. If I were in your shoes I think I'd look hard at the 1800 and 2200. The 60" MMM has an amazing cut quality with that floating suspension, and I highly recommend it.

The machine is just awesome, and one that you'll never regret spending good cash on.

Whatever you do, let us know and don't forget the pictures!

 

[PhilNH5]

Re: Time to replace the JD318. Opinions on BX ser

Rob,
I am unsure as to why the bagger would be any less efficient between the 1500 and 2200. I understand the greater HP but the bagger runs off the rear PTO. Both spin at 540 rpm. I would expect that for grass and leaves both would work fine.

Phil