Time to paint som older steel buildings

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Budweiser John

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I've got to paint two steel clad Pole buildings this spring. The steel is structurally sound but after 45 years is weathered and faded but no rust.
My game plan is to pressure wash the structures and airless spray a new finish. These are side walls only as I have had the roofs coated with an elastomertic roofing compound
The sixety four dollar question is, who has the best product? Oil or Latex? Benjmen More DTM, Sherman Williams,
Pittsburg Paints, Or a big box house brand. I can tell you I'm not impressed with Home Depot's Behr brand deck stain but their paint seems to have decent reviews.
I sincerely appreciate any member In put on the question.

B. John
 
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I've got to paint two steel clad Pole buildings this spring. The steel is structurally sound but after 45 years is weathered and faded but no rust.
My game plan is to pressure wash the structures and airless spray a new finish. These are side walls only as I have had the roofs coated with an elastomertic roofing compound
The sixety four dollar question is, who has the best product? Oil or Latex? Benjmen More DTM, Sherman Williams,
Pittsburg Paints, Or a big box house brand. I can tell you I'm not impressed with Home Depot's Behr brand deck stain but their paint seems to have decent reviews.
I sincerely appreciate any member In put on the question.

B. John

My Morton building is 34 years old, and is close to needing paint (it is close to salt water).
I contacted Morton to see if I could PAY their contract paint crew to do it for me.
Too busy they claimed.
Thanks Morton..... for NO after market support.
They did tell me that they have an arrangement with Sherwin Williams to supply a particular paint for their buildings.
Thus, I conclude that Sherwin Williams does have a very good paint for steel clad buildings.
 
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I'm not surprised Morton wouldn't be interested in the project. They build pole buildings, they don't paint them. Paint is the one thing that people try to save money on when in fact it's the second more important component to a successful paint job. The most important part is the prep. If you are willing to spend the coin for a really good paint, you'll want to switch from the home owner product to an industrial grade product. Sherwin Williamms has a good industrial line, but you must be a approved vendor to receive favorable pricing. Their retail pricing is stupid expensive.

This in Tenemec. They have a very good product that is specifically marketed for the industrial user. This line is specifically formulated for reprinting faded coil stock such as your building. http://www.tnemec.com/company/resource/document/?doc=346 I posted three different products. They're very simular with the difference being the gloss.

http://www.tnemec.com/product/view/Series-1070-Fluoronar
http://www.tnemec.com/product/view/Series-1071-Fluoronar
http://www.tnemec.com/product/view/Series-1072-Fluoronar
 
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Years ago I built a pole barn and at the time I only had used metal available to side it. Some of the panels were galvanized and some were painted. It was the ugliest barn you've ever seen. Anyhow, I painted this ugly thing with a Sherwin Williams all in one primer and paint product (can't recall which one) and to this day it still looks good, and it's been almost 20 years.
 
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Thanks gentlemen. Looks like a trip to the local Sherwin Williams store is on the agenda.
 
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I'm a big fan of Sherwin Williams for information and of course, their products. Valspar at Lowes is good paint too and a bit cheaper. They even sell the exact same Sherwin Williams paint at Lowes that Sherwin Williams has, but for a few dollars less per gallon. The manager at Sherwin Williams told me that they sel more volume there and overall, it makes more money for the company.

With all paint, the primer is what makes it last. For anything older, or suffering to some degree, oil based primers are the way to go. My personal favorite is Zinnsser BIN for most things. It sprays well, sticks extremely well and then paints great.
 
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Shortly after I purchased my place in 1982,, my elderly neighbor painted his barn.
At the time, I thought, the barn is so old, and in such bad shape,, demo, and rebuild.

He was pretty old,, and VERY cheap, he used the cheapest paint at the local AG supply.
He painted,,, and painted,, I believe it took him more than a week.

No loaders,, he used ladders, and NO prep work, he just painted,
he slowly crawled all over the building,, first the silver roof, then the red sides.
I thought,, what a waste,, all that labor,, using cheap paint.

Well,, he is long gone (over a decade) but, the barn paint, mostly, is intact.

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A couple years later, he painted his green house in the background,,,

I guess the moral of the story is,, some paint is better than no paint,,, :thumbsup:

I am happy he painted,, the place makes a nice photo op,,,, :cool2:
 
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I'm not surprised Morton wouldn't be interested in the project. They build pole buildings, they don't paint them. Paint is the one thing that people try to save money on when in fact it's the second more important component to a successful paint job. The most important part is the prep. If you are willing to spend the coin for a really good paint, you'll want to switch from the home owner product to an industrial grade product. Sherwin Williamms has a good industrial line, but you must be a approved vendor to receive favorable pricing. Their retail pricing is stupid expensive.

This in Tenemec. They have a very good product that is specifically marketed for the industrial user. This line is specifically formulated for reprinting faded coil stock such as your building. http://www.tnemec.com/company/resource/document/?doc=346 I posted three different products. They're very simular with the difference being the gloss.

http://www.tnemec.com/product/view/Series-1070-Fluoronar
http://www.tnemec.com/product/view/Series-1071-Fluoronar
http://www.tnemec.com/product/view/Series-1072-Fluoronar

Well...... Morton told me that they DO still have a (contract) paint crew.
They painted my roof (under warranty) when it was about 15 years old.
They told me that unless it is a warranty job, they will not paint for building owners.
Said their (traveling) crew is just too busy.
Morton has provided me with the Sherman Williams industrial paint paperwork, for me to receive the approved vendor discount..
 
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Anyone consider or have experience with latex for pole barn roofs?

I have a barn with corrugated metal for a roof that was painted 5-6 years ago and needs to be painted again. I considered Lowes Latex Exterior paint of some sort. Pressure wash, dry then spray paint.
 
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Thanks Eddie, I guess I never read the fine print on Zinnsser BIN Primer as I was not aware that it was rated for exterior use, used lots of it inside, good stuff.

Shifting gears, did I miss a final up date/pictures/info on that fancy chicken palace you were building?
 

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