This is so ridiculous !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Gatorboy
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It surely is ridiculous, for animals do not have rights.
Animals can't enter into complex social agreements humans use, such as constitutional republican government. Therefore, animals are not automatically protected by the “rights” humans create. Animals do not have rights, unless we specifically decide to grant them rights. If we do, it will be out of kindness, not duty; we can grant animals special legal protection, but we do not have to.
I do not like to see or hear of cruelty to animals, but thinking that animals have some "right" similar to humans is, as you say, ridiculous.
Animals can't enter into complex social agreements humans use, such as constitutional republican government. Therefore, animals are not automatically protected by the “rights” humans create. Animals do not have rights, unless we specifically decide to grant them rights. If we do, it will be out of kindness, not duty; we can grant animals special legal protection, but we do not have to.
I do not like to see or hear of cruelty to animals, but thinking that animals have some "right" similar to humans is, as you say, ridiculous.
DocHeb
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What cracks me up is that the students are paying the university for the course, and they are providing uncompensated work for their research/work for the legal firm.
Once a case is successfully litigated by a trial lawyer, they then sell their expert witness testimony transcripts/research papers/discovered documents to other lawyers so they can use them in similiar cases.
But it's OK - the lawyers are just doing it to "help the little guy get his day in court" /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
You are a bit "off-tractor" with this post, however. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Once a case is successfully litigated by a trial lawyer, they then sell their expert witness testimony transcripts/research papers/discovered documents to other lawyers so they can use them in similiar cases.
But it's OK - the lawyers are just doing it to "help the little guy get his day in court" /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
You are a bit "off-tractor" with this post, however. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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Old_Hickory
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( You are a bit "off-tractor" with this post, however )</font>
I believe this is not the only post that is non tractor related.
I have animals etc/livestock and I was thinking of other farmers and ranchers that own or keep livestock might be interested.
This was the "Rural living" section the last time I looked.
So............................. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
I believe this is not the only post that is non tractor related.
I have animals etc/livestock and I was thinking of other farmers and ranchers that own or keep livestock might be interested.
This was the "Rural living" section the last time I looked.
So............................. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
fivestring
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Lawyers are animals.
I agree with gatorboy....
Animals do not have rights. Those weenie-heads need to read the constitution.
I agree with gatorboy....
Animals do not have rights. Those weenie-heads need to read the constitution.
Slamfire
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When somebody get on to me about animal rights, I ask what are animal duites?
wroughtn_harv
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I do see some of the logic expressed here as flawed, quite.
If the reason for rights depends upon ability to comprehend and reciprocate then children and the naive have none. Not to mention all of those with elevator problems.
If we assume rights are based upon the ability to reciprocate in kind then people who have relationships with our nonhuman friends probably understand better than most about reciprocity.
Animal rights is all about respect, mostly for oneself. You have to have it to give it.
If the reason for rights depends upon ability to comprehend and reciprocate then children and the naive have none. Not to mention all of those with elevator problems.
If we assume rights are based upon the ability to reciprocate in kind then people who have relationships with our nonhuman friends probably understand better than most about reciprocity.
Animal rights is all about respect, mostly for oneself. You have to have it to give it.
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Well said, Harv!!!!
I agree completely!!!!
I agree completely!!!!
fivestring
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Harv, animals DO NOT have rights. One only needs to read the preamble, Constitution and the amendments to the Constitution do understand what the term "rights" means. One cannot give rights to an object.
I agree with you about respect for animals.
I have pets. I am also a hunter. I only kill what I will eat.
It is also mentioned in the good book that man is over ALL beasts, fowl, creepy crawly things, etc. They are here for man to enjoy. Period.
I agree with you about respect for animals.
I have pets. I am also a hunter. I only kill what I will eat.
It is also mentioned in the good book that man is over ALL beasts, fowl, creepy crawly things, etc. They are here for man to enjoy. Period.
