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rox

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No reaosn to write tonight other than looking for sympathy/encouragement. The olive harvest was over in December, and you have not lived until you have slung a big roll of net on yur back and hiked up steep hillside terraces, carrying the net on your back, in order to lay it down on the next terrace up.

So form December until now, have not done much physical work, other than hauling around cases of olive oil. But it is the end of February and it is time to prun the olive trees. We ahve names all our parcels, and the parcel we are working on is called "The Mailbox" because it is located, well near our mailbox.

Oh the p-a-i-n..... Our trees are so overgrown. You don't want olive trees so tall that you can't pick the olives, it si a wast of energy for the tree. you want the tree to produce olives in the regions where you can pick them, and not to low either or else you can't bend down and get under the tree to lay the nets down. So my husband and I are working on the Mail Box Parcel. We are so glad we did not keep the Morocan farm employee, we can't figure out what he did all year long, he surely didn't keep the trees prunned, that is for sure.

We cut with a small prunning hand saw, like everybody, that is how you do it. However tomorrow I am going to go buy a small blade chainsaw. We have one by Miketa, it has about an 8 inch blade, however it doesn't work. My husband is doing the main grunt work, he is hand sawing through big branches about 6" across, (we swear all day long against the Morocan), branches that are in the middle of the tree. The trees should be shaped like a champagn cup, open in the middle., there should not be branches in the middle!!!!! We have so much work to do.... I am not even going to tell my husband, jsust going to get up early and go buy the **** chain saw. We have a Stihl chainsaw that I bought last year (yeah my husband let's me do all the equipment purchasing) but it jsut does not fit in the quarters we need it to fit, and it is a pain to always start it, cu one branch, stop and start it again 15 minutes later. Tomorrow is it, going to buy the batter operated Makita chain saw.

In the meantime, I have the delectable task of cutting the trees that are on the slope. We ahve terraces and they are all stone terraced. however in the MailBox section there are no stone terraces, the gorund is jsut sloped up, dirt between the terraces. the slope go about 2 fto and go up about 4ft - 5ft. Yeah a h*ll of a slope. I constantly fall down on my butt. I believe the trees were planted on the slop to hold the slope.

Down hill slope I am cutting the trees short, uphill on the same tree, I cut them real high. Nothing is left on the sides because then you would have to be mid-slope to pick and that is near impossible.

So to get to the point of my topic, "Theme from Rocky" my arms are killing me, I have to brace myself on the slope and most of the time hang onto the tree, while I cut one handed, using a hand prunning saw, branches about 4" - 6" across. I wear a backpack power prunning set up on my hips that adds a couple pounds. My biceps are killing me, at times I have to use two hands on the small prunning saw in order to finish the job becasue my biceps on my right arm are giving out. All the while I do self talk. "Roxy this is so good for you, just keep working. Get your biceps stronger then it won't hurt. Get stronger, when you are stronger the job will be easy." When the self talk isn't working I switch to musice, I think of the theme song from Rocky, "Getting Strong now,,, Gonna Win now..." I have 3 of these slopes ot do, each slope holds about 20 trees. Today I only worked in the afternoon, and I did 8 trees. BUT I moved a lot of big branches that my husband cut, and before I worked on olive trees, first I worked an hour or so on our almond trees, so I actually did more than 8 trees. Tomorrow I hope to finish one line. Perhaps I'll take a photo and post it so you can visualize the project.

Oh did I say that before I even leave the house I take 2 Aleve to keep the body aches down, while I'm working. We can prun until the trees bolssom, probably mid May. However effectively we will stop in April and start burning. We can't burn until April. Fro burning my husband aunt comes, she is 79 but a big help. I trust her more with burning than I do my husband. He is reckless if you ask me when it comes to buring. I have a constant fear that he is going to burn the whole farm down. At least when his aunt is here I feel safer. Of course my husand says that he is buringing safely so we have a difference of opinon there. the one really good idea I ahd about buring is that he put the big sprayer on the back of the tractor and fills the tank with water, so in case the worst case scenerio happns he has kind of like a fire truck water tank on the back fo the tractor. That make sme feel a lot better and he only does it to make me happy. he does not feel it is necessary. But he does it, so I am at least placated a little bit. We have 1,362 olive trees and probably 1,000 that need cutting. I did the rest last year. Once they are all prunned then it is only a 3 - 4 week job to keep them in shape. None of the other olive farmers are having to do what we are doing. The prevous owner jsut wasn't apying attention. The Morocan only did what was visible form the hosue and everything else is, oh so much work. But we will getter done. We probably won't finish this year but we will finish next year. Unti then... "Getting Storng Now, Gonna Win Now...." Just basically blowing off steam in this post.
 
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Rox- I will certainly think of you and your aching muscles when I enjoy an olive in the future! Do you hand pick the olives? We are in an area of cherry orchards- they shake most of the crop.
 
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Thanks for your sympathy... I must confess that is what I was looking for tonight. poor poor pitifull me /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

. We do actually hand pick all the olvies that are for table olies. We hand pick some trees but most of the trees, we use a vibrating pitchfork type equipment. We stick it up into the thin branches and the head vibrates and shakes off the olives. it does not bruise the olvies becaause you are shaking the branch.
 
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I have found hand saws to work fine for stuff a couple inches in diameter. Whether hand or power saw, the biggest key is to keep it sharp sharp sharp, and clean.

I have found my 18V DeWalt reciprocating saw works nicely for tree trimming. I get 12" wet wood blades for it. They are made for pruning.

For the Stihl, have you had it tuned? The Stihls that I have had have worked very well. No matter what chainsaw, I have found a clean plug, fresh gas, and a sharp chain are key. Keep the air cleaner clean too. Use a good quality oil to mix with, and use at the oil manufacturers mix recomendations(I use Husky oil, blended for 50:1)

Oh, and keep them all clean and sharp /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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If they are avaliable in France you might want to look at a "Pole Saw" a chain saw on a pole about 8 feet long. The engine is in the base of the pole and the saw on the other end. I've used one on Apple and Cherry trees for the last 5 years and it makes pruning a lot easier. You can get to the middle of the tree without ladders and almost all the pruning can be done from the ground. They are well balanced and easy to operate.
 
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Is it worth it, is the money you earn from this even close to the the work you put into it? Get a payed job somewhere and let the husband do the hard work! Let him hire some help on the farm. If you got a job somewhere you would probably learn the language much faster as well.
Here in Norway we pass the time shoveling snow, 3 feet last 30hrs!
I add a pic from the kitchen window, it might comfort you to see that other people have theirs too.
 

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Geez, I feel bad for you. I went home after work last night and pruned our entire orchard with hand cutters and lopping shears in about an hour. Of course, we only have about a dozen trees and they are small. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif:D

With 1000+ trees, you have my deepest sympathy and moral support! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif It is amazing how quickly trees can get out of control.
 
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RobertN,
Good thing I wasn't able to jump out and go buy that saw, because now I saw your post and I really think you have the best answer for us. I checked out the DeWalt Website and found a 24 volt DeWalt Reciprocationg saw on line for $329 which is a darn good price I think. I checked the postage and I can have it air mailed from the states for $80.

At this link here
http://www.dewalt.com/us/products/accessory_category_detail.asp?categoryID=294

Can you tell me what saw blade would be best for cutting some pretty big limbs off of trees?

Also DeWalt is sold in France, I found 8 Dealers within 30 miles of our home. I am going to give them a call tomorrow and see about pricing in France. However I bet I will do better by having one shipped formt he USA. I have a transformer I use for the batter re-charger (this transformer has been running for 30 years now, it is small and heavy so I doubt I'll have any issues with that) and if that ever breaks down I can jsut buy the recharger only, here in France. Hmmm tomorrow I will spend some phone time for sure.

The thing about the chainsaw is through out the day it is a pain to pull the cord and turn it on all the time. I think a good pwerful reciprocating saw would suit our needs very nicely.

Once we have the trees in shape, then I think a Pole saw (and I looked at the Stihl ones, which is the way probbly I would go in the future), but for right now many of our branches that need cutting are not way up in the top of the tree canopy. Basically once we get them in shape a pole saw would be best. But for the moment, you have to get inside the center of the tree and are cutting off limbs, actually limbs is a better word than branches, near the bottom.

Mega thanks on the reciprocating saw idea, plus it would be handy to have one because it can be used for other cutting as well.

Saw that DeWalt jsut came out with a 36 volt line but I am sure I cna't afford that at the moment. Wonder what those will be going for???

If you can help me out with my saw blades question I will appreciate it.
 
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Gunnar,
You compose a very pretty picture! The tulips in the vase offer a promise of spring. Ahhhhh seeing all that snow reminded me of living in Wisconsin. I have many memories of shoveling a lot of snow.

As much as I complaine, I do like the farm and I like the physical work. It is just these 60 trees that are on a bad slope that have been neglected, they are hard. My husband wants to cut them but I want to do it because I have a certain way I want to have them cut. So really it is my preference.

I always like it when you write and especially when you post pictures.

Do you have any idea where in Norway I could contact to sell our olive oil? It should be a nice expensive gourmet food store. You can send me a private message if you ahve any ideas for me. I know Norwegian Chefs are really excellent because they are winning in the Paul Bocuse cooking competition in Lyon France. Did I tell you I visited your website, I think it was the website of your son and I really enjoyed it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You seem like you have a very nice family.
 
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ToadHill,

Thank you for the suggestion. Once we have our trees in shape and under control, then we will buy a pole saw for sure. At the moment, most of our cutting in limbs down low.

Ahhh.... so many trees, but we jsut do them line by line and keep at it.

Thanks again for your suggestion, I am sure you are correct, that it is the proper tool once you have a properly formed tree orchard.
 

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