The world according to Monsanto II

[Don87]

I was hoping the other thread wouldn't be closed, but I figured it would be, because of the insults being thrown.

But with that aside,

I was told that Universities were doing the studies on GMO's now. None were pointed out, so I needed to do my own searching. And by Golly I did find a University that is actively investigating GMO crops.

A small excerpt from the study:

Dear Secretary Vilsack:

A team of senior plant and animal scientists have recently brought to my attention the discovery of an electron microscopic pathogen that appears to significantly impact the health of plants, animals, and probably human beings. Based on a review of the data, it is widespread, very serious, and is in much higher concentrations in Roundup Ready (RR) soybeans and corn-suggesting a link with the RR gene or more likely the presence of Roundup. This organism appears NEW to science!

Sincerely,

COL (Ret.) Don M. Huber
Emeritus Professor, Purdue University
APS Coordinator, USDA National Plant Disease Recovery System (NPDRS)


That wasn't the entire letter, or article it can be seen here: Emergency! Pathogen New to Science Found in Roundup Ready GM Crops?


The next thing I ran across:

Independent studies have revealed links to cancer, genetic damage and endocrine disruption, as well as developmental defects, for example, craniofacial and vertebrae abnormalities in rats [7] as well as craniofacial and mouth deformities, eye abnormalities and bent, curved tails in frog tadpoles [8]. The most recent study by Carrasco and colleagues found a mechanistic link between glyphosate and abnormal retinoic acid signalling in embryonic development [5, 9]

The rest of the article here: EU Regulators and Monsanto Exposed for Hiding Glyphosate Toxicity - Bad Seed News


Farmer to Farmer: The Devastating Impact of GM Crops
Farmer to Farmer: The Devastating Impact of GM Crops - Bad Seed News


EDIT: to those who don't know.........Purdue universty is one of the top universities in the USA.

 

[Short Game]

Thanks Don. Let us hope that those who disagree don't use insults as a tactic to silence this discussion.

 

[Don87]

Thanks Don. Let us hope that those who disagree don't use insults as a tactic to silence this discussion.

Your welcome. And I agree, but those are the tactics of the ones that don't want the truth heard or seen.

 

[Short Game]

Truth or not, let it be hashed out. This is supposed to be a country with a free exchange of ideas. People call names when they have few ideas, or are afraid that someone might have a different thought. I kind of like to take the insults lightly, claiming the tinfoil hat for my own. Now I'm picturing tinfoil mortarboards on the Purdue grads.

As far as I can see, that documentary on Link TV might be docked for style points, as there is nothing that can be done about people's tastes. But to attack it because your bread might not be buttered on that side, well, that's just being upset that we don't have a ridged enough society for some folk's taste.

Special: The World According to Monsanto

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Monday, August 29th 10:00 pm

Thursday, September 1st 08:00 pm

Friday, September 2nd 02:00 am

Saturday, September 3rd 10:00 pm

DIRECTV Channel 375 | DISH Network Channel 9410

 

[WM75Guy]

Here is a short research paper I wrote in 2006 on GM foods for a nursing prerequisite class. From a health standpoint there are some concerns and there is research to back up those concerns. Look up the cites and read them yourself. By the way, I got a A on the paper.

 

[Wooddust]

Extraordinary claims… require extraordinary evidence. Biofortified

A well written debunking of the claims being made. The GMO hysteria crowd continues to run roughshod over good science with hysterical claims, no supporting evidence, and no peer review by accredited experts.

 

[Don87]

Truth or not, let it be hashed out. This is supposed to be a country with a free exchange of ideas. People call names when they have few ideas, or are afraid that someone might have a different thought. I kind of like to take the insults lightly, claiming the tinfoil hat for my own. Now I'm picturing tinfoil mortarboards on the Purdue grads.

As far as I can see, that documentary on Link TV might be docked for style points, as there is nothing that can be done about people's tastes. But to attack it because your bread might not be buttered on that side, well, that's just being upset that we don't have a ridged enough society for some folk's taste.

Special: The World According to Monsanto

Airdates

Timezone: Pacific

Monday, August 29th 10:00 pm

Thursday, September 1st 08:00 pm

Friday, September 2nd 02:00 am

Saturday, September 3rd 10:00 pm

DIRECTV Channel 375 | DISH Network Channel 9410

Thanks for showing the airtime of the program. I didn't have access to the first one a few days ago as I don't have dish network or anything. Someone stated it was on youtube somewhere, But I haven't looked for it.

The reason why is that most programs like that are 'usually' hype, with no facts.

I prefer to search on my own for facts.

 

[Don87]

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Biofortified

A well written debunking of the claims being made. The GMO hysteria crowd continues to run roughshod over good science with hysterical claims, no supporting evidence, and no peer review by accredited experts.

I wouldn't say it was a 'debunking', but I would say they had serious questions that all of us would like to have answered.

I was totally expecting a responce on that , so I saved this special.........just for the respondent: A Comparison of the Effects of Three GM Corn Varieties on Mammalian Health


Theres your tests, with the criteria to replicate it. Do you have the capability?

 

[massey990]

IMO, a waste of bandwidth by monsanto employees and or investors!

 

[Combustix]

Shortgame thang for airdates will have wife TiVo till I can get home to watch.
Don87 thanks I found this thread pretty interesting, unfortunately some get carried away. Even without the research or scientific facts, IMO changing the inherent design of a food source to be resistant to chemicals so we can spray lots more chemicals does not seem like good practice. You hear more and more about viruses becoming resistant to antibiotics so we create stronger antibiotics. You have to wonder how long till the weeds develop a resistance to roundup.
Look at the tobacco industry. How long did they know of the issues with their product before, the harmfulness of tobacco was revealed. Monsanto makes millions or billions off these products just as RJ Reynolds did and still does. I have no problem with fwj growing gmo to feed his family, or Monsanto selling him seed and roundup. As I have stated it's a decision to avoid these products that I have chosen. I would much rather support the local farmer who chooses the same.