The whole is greater than the sum of the parts...

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Mechanos

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Interesting... I was pricing a rear auxiliary hydraulic kit for my tractor today. I got the number of the kit and called the dealer to get a price (parts web site won't give a price on the "bundle" kits). Then for giggles, I went back and added each piece of the kit to my cart individually. Turns out that the kit cost about $28 more than if I buy each part individually. :confused2: You can probably guess which route I'm going to take.
 
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May want to double check, I've seen this a few times and later on you figure out that there are brackets, adapters, mounting hardware ect that come with the kit but are not listed. Usually you can't buy these pieces individually.
 
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Yeah, maybe the smart thing to do here is pay the extra $28 and be done with it. That way, if it's missing a part, you can go back to the dealer and it's on them to come up with it. If you buy the parts pieces to make up your own kit, and find out you are short something, then it's on you to tell them what else you need and hope they have it. Like the previous poster mentioned, sometimes there may be small parts/items thrown in a kit that are not really on the bill of material. Sometimes we do that with kits that my company sells to customers, but it's usually not big hardware just small stuff like labels, bags, clips, tie wraps, etc....
 
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Back when I worked for a JD dealer whole goods were always cheaper than parts goods.
 
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Is this for your 955?

And what was/is the rear aux hyd. kit number?
 
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Yes, you have most likely missed something. Bundle's when available are a better price option (typically). The parts catalog does not always show each item that a bundle uses even though it may appear so in the diagram. The dealer, however, can give you a breakdown of each indiviual items p/n from their system. That is assuming that one of the items in the kit is not something with a description like "bag of parts" !
 
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Kit # BM16763. I believe the number is the same for all the x55 and x56 series tractors... but I'm not 100% sure.

There are 19 pieces in the kit (as counted from pictures someone else posted of the kit they bought). There are 19 pieces in my "cart". In this case the individual parts are less than the bundled whole goods. I can further reduce my cost by sourcing the face seal x ORB elbow fittings and the o-rings from my local hydraulic fitting supply house. I can get the o-rings for pennies compared to Deere's ~1$ each and cut Deere's price on the fittings in half. So, I can shave another $25 off the price. A $53 savings is more than worth it my book (pocket book, that is).
 
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while rare.. i've seen that before. i call it a convienience charge.. I guess they call it a profit margin.. ;)
 
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Mechanos
Sounds like you have it well covered.
I see that kit on sale at Deere online dealers for $234.

Glad you are going to getRdun
 
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I picked up all the O-rings and the two elbow fittings today from my local hydraulic supply house for $10 total. I placed the order for the remaining pieces with my dealer and as I was doing so, it dawned on me that both the "kit" and the parts diagram are actually missing one o-ring. If you've ever installed one of these on a x55 series tractor (I have done one on my other 955), you'd know that in order to install one of the elbow fittings, you have to disconnect one of the loader hard lines and rotate it's fitting out of the way to clear the new fitting's installation. While not absolutely necessary, I consider it good practice to replace the o-ring in any fitting that I "disturb". In, my opinion, Deere should include this additional o-ring in the parts break-down, but they do not.

By sourcing the common hydraulic fittings locally, my bill from Deere is $185. So, I will be out $195 total instead of $253 for the "kit" or $225 for all the individual pieces from Deere.
 

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