Buying Advice Taking Deliver - 4710 Advice

[timb]

Well all,

Two years after I started pestering people here for information - the decisions are made and my dealer came through and found me a new 4710 reverser in Vermont so Deere corporate is coordinating getting it back to PA. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

A <font color="green"> BIG </font> thanks for all the help I got here along the way!

Now the other components/options are ordered in and will be shipping in to the dealer to meet up with the tractor. Nice that while I'm pre-approved on JD credit - this is all being done without my actually signing anything yet!

I'm getting -

4710 reverser, R1's loaded with RimGuard, upgrading to the 55 amp altenator, draft control on the 3pt., extendable draft links, and the 3rd SCV.

460 FEL with HD 73" bucket w/replaceable edge, toothbar, level indicator. Added in the ballast box for those times it will help - doesn't add much $$$. (I decided not to try to get a 400X even though it should work with the 4710. The 460 is a known quantity for better or worse and I figured with my luck the 400X would turn out to have some peculiar aspect when used with a 4000 Ten I wouldn't know about until it was too late.)

MX6 rotary with the normal chains and slip clutch.

No ETA yet - I'm sure I'll be getting plenty anxious waiting.

Any advice for specific things to look for / over / test once the tractor is set up at the dealer before I sign off - or when it's delivered? Especially anything that may be specific to these particular models? How can you positively tell the HD bucket from the standard 73" unit if you don't have the two side-by-each?

Geez I better clean out the barn to make room!

 

[thebigc]

Congrats on the new unit!!

About the 400x loader, it seems like the increased bucket visibility alone would make it worth taking a chance on. After six years using a 410 FEL on my 4100 and not seeing the bucket at all when it's leveled for digging and scraping, I know I'd really appreciate curved arms. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Also, the easy access zerk fittings are a plus!!

I can't wait for the new small chassis models to arrive /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Donny

 

[timb]

Actually it played out this way - I decided I didn't really care on the loader - I could see +/- maybe either way so whatever turned out to be available would be ok with me. Actually was surprised there is supposed to be a 460 on the way - I had a hunch the 460's might already have also evaporated.

With the minimal pictures available so far - it's tough to compare the two exactly. Doesn't look to me that there will necessarily be better sight lines to the bucket - although the curved arms couldn't hurt. On the other hand it almost looks as if the loader projects further forward than the 460 (on the ground) and that could also have benefits or drawbacks or (more likely) could be my imagination. Since I've never had any kind of a loader on a tractor before I'm sure I'll be happy as a pig you know where for a long time.

 

[rockyridgefarm]

Whew Tim! We are SO HAPPY for US!!! Glad its going yer way!!!!

There are some pics of heavy duty buckets posted here. They have extra plates and stuff.

If you can, Have em add the power beyond and/or rear remotes. Plumbing's cheaper done at purchase.

Good choice on those telescoping links. I GOTTA get them... I am no wimp, but I can't budge the MX6...

Amazing that deere is getting it all that way for you...

 

[Dutch445]

Timb,
Congrats on the new tractor!
The way to check for the HD bucket is to look at the top of the bucket, it should be solid steel, about 1-1/4" thick, maybe 6 or 7" wide. The other areas, reinforced side edges, and underneath, look for 4 support straps that wrap under the bucket from back to front instead of just 2.
You might want to double check for the fluid, crack a valve stem and see if it bleeds.
Don't forget the wheel torque specs, after 50? hrs... maybe double check that even sooner.
I'm sure you will check the obvious stuff, fluids, etc. Somebody should come and show you operation/safety/maintenance points anyway.. salesman or somebody else qualified. (sometimes the truck drivers don't have time and really don't know the tractors inside and out like a salesman or service tech would)
Good luck, I'm sure you will be happy with it. It's a nice package you have there.

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[timb]

Mike - I've got the 3rd SCV being run to the rear. I asked several times if it would help to set up power beyond now. I do plan on getting the 48 or 448 BH some time next year, but I won't have any other need for power beyond until then. (Eventually I'm sure I'll do something else with it). Anyway - the salesman keeps telling me it will be the same costs either way so I left that off the list for now.

Dutch - thanks for the info - I'll have to take your notes with me.

 

[BillyP]

Congratulation Tim, I've followed your hope to be and now purchase for a long time. You'll lose some sleep and get a little antsy before it comes in but the wait will be worth it /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[Kevin37]

Tim

Great news for you AND team GREEN. Welcome, and don't forget the pics on the big delivery day.

I recently got a 4710, 460 FEL, MX-6 and ballast box. One suggestion I would have is the iMatch option, if it's usable with the draft control and and extendable links? I've put about 30 hours on my tractor so far, and hooking and unhooking the cutter and ballast box is a breeze with the iMatch.

The other things I would mention to you are:

Be sure and check the wheel bolts OFTEN during the first ten hours. FYI, a new one costs $1.39

If using the loader a lot, get the small knob for your steering wheel. ($10.99 at JD)

When you take your first break after an hour or so on the tractor, get down and crawl all over and under it!! Check all fittings, nuts, bolts and lines. You may be surprised what you find.

Enjoy, enjoy, enjoy!! I still get a stupid GRIN /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif every time I climb in the seat.

Kevin

 

[timb]

Thank Kevin - I think the I-Match would still work with the extendable links, although there might be a little interference as you would pull back on one side more than the other and 'jamb' the I-Match a bit. I'd have to look at the hitch side of the I-Match lower link connecting points to tell. THe draft control shouldn't matter - in mounting or in use it should remain compatible.

Which brings up a question - is there any real difference between the JD I-Match and the aftermarket units? (TSC, Nothern Tool) - I remember thinking the TSC unit was about 1/2 or 2/3 the cost of the JD. Always something I can get down the road.

There will be a lot of other implements eventually, including either a 48 or 448 backhoe by this time next year.
Wheel lug torque - good point. Seems like that's common problem on CUTs regardless of color or size. I never quite undertood that - I set the lug nuts on my vehicles with a torque wrench to spec - check them 20-25 miles later and they stay put until I rotate tires again. Anyway - while I think one of my current torque wrenches goes high enough (barely) for the wheel bolts - probably not high enough for some of the other tractor specs. Who has a decent, fairly accurate, but affordable click-type wrench that reads that high? (say 150-180 ft-lbs).

 

[cowboydoc]

Tim,

Only suggestion I would make is drop the ballast box and get yourself a good heavy boxblade. There are a 101 uses for a box blade and it makes a good ballast when you don't need it for something else.