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My 13 yr. old Bose SS died, since it's so old, we decided to replace it. Bought a Samsung w/DVD player. I've searched for quite a while and can't find how to hook it up to play surround from TV on Dish Network. I think I can hook the HDMI from the Dish box to the IN on the Samsung, then HDMI out to TV HDMI IN, does that sound right? If that's correct, I will need to get another HDMI cable, but don't want to buy one if that won't work. There's got to be some gurus on here that know the answer. Thanks
 
   / Surround Sound #2  
I don't think you go with 2 HDMI cables.

Most devices I know of have either a coax or toslink cable that goes directly to the receiver. So, whether you have a Dish, DVD or even the TV itself, they all have a connection to the tuner/receiver via coax or toslink.
 
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Just to be sure, what is the Samsung w/dvd player? If it is a combo receiver type unit, you may have to connect audio cables from its out to the in portion of your TV. The HDMI may only be relegated to the video portion of your stb with this particular player. You do not need another HDMI cable to do that. Just use any leads that came from one of your electronics.
 
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As I understand it (and I will be finding out for sure tomorrow when I setup one for my inlaws) when you plug a HDMI DVD player/Sound system into a HDMI capable TV the DVD player tells the TV that it has an amp and to send the sound to it over the HDMI cable. No more need for separate Audio and Video cables.

Aaron Z
 
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HDMI is both video and audio, but...

The Samsung is the Amp, but it's also a player. We use an HDMI cable to the TV for the HD image, plus you can watch a movie with the TV's speakers if so desired. But, for watching movies in Dolby Digital 5.1, it's delivering the audio internally to the integrated amp.

With Dish, you're sending the HD image to the TV with and HDMI cable (and audio as well, for use with the sets speakers). Now, how do we get Dish's 5.1 sound to the Samsung? With either a coax or toslink cable. (Toslink is the fiber-optic cable)

It's possible you could install the toslink between the TV and the Samsung, too, where it'll possibly pass-through the Dish's 5.1 signal to the external amp (the samsung).
 
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HDMI is both video and audio, but...

The Samsung is the Amp, but it's also a player. We use an HDMI cable to the TV for the HD image, plus you can watch a movie with the TV's speakers if so desired. But, for watching movies in Dolby Digital 5.1, it's delivering the audio internally to the integrated amp.

With Dish, you're sending the HD image to the TV with and HDMI cable (and audio as well, for use with the sets speakers). Now, how do we get Dish's 5.1 sound to the Samsung? With either a coax or toslink cable. (Toslink is the fiber-optic cable)

It's possible you could install the toslink between the TV and the Samsung, too, where it'll possibly pass-through the Dish's 5.1 signal to the external amp (the samsung).

HDMI is taking care of your audio and video to the TV from the stb. Now you want the Samsung to control your speakers from the signal its getting from the TV. If it is digital transfer, then go with the toslink, if that part of the Samsung is analog, then you need audio cables. It should say in your info that came with the Samsung. I can't tell too well from the pictures but the back of the Samsung apears to have analog jacks of some sort. Perhaps there is an audio out to the TV there. It also has a coax or toslink (can't make that part out) connection that should state in its instructions of how you may use it. There appears to be several ways to skin this cat. Maybe you can connect your stb to the Samsung. It may translate this digital audio frequency but it needs a way to get to the TV. I don't know if this particular unit has a digital/analog interface or does everything digitally but that fact would depend on the type of audio connection cable you would use from the Samsung to the TV.
 
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I did find that HDMI transmits video and audio so I ordered an HDMI cable to hook from the SS to the HDMI IN on the TV, I will hook the HDMI cable that I now have from the Dish box to the TV, to the SS HDMI IN. In the directions there is a paragraph that makes me wonder if this will work to get sound from the SS when not using it to play a DVD, just have the Dish and TV to play thru the SS. Below is the paragraph that is confusing.

The quality of the audio output through the HDMI OUT Jack (sampling frequency and bit rate) may be limited
by the performance of the external device.
Since HDMI connection supports both video and audio, you don稚 have to connect an audio cable.
When this unit is turned off, no HDMI video or audio signal is output through this unit from a set-top box.
When a Cable Box/Satellite Receiver is connected to HDMI IN, the SD/HD(Standard Definition/High Definition)
button on the Remote control does not work.
When the output from an external device is connected via DVI/HDMI to this unit, no audio will be output. In this
case, you can listen to digital audio by connecting the Optical OUT of the source device (Set-Top Box) to the
Optical IN 1 or 2 of this unit.

This makes it sound like the HDMI won't transmit the audio and I will need an additional cable to get the sound, even though HDMI is supposed to transmit both. ???????????
 
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I go though this every time I replace a part of my system :rolleyes:. Just think ahead to how happy you'll be when it's all up and running properly! :D
 
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I go though this every time I replace a part of my system :rolleyes:. Just think ahead to how happy you'll be when it's all up and running properly! :D

I may have to just give up and call a 12 yr old neighbor to come hook it up.:)
I sure hate to lose the Bose, don't think this system will be as crisp and clear as it was. I couldn't bring myself to cough up 1700 big ones because they are so propriatery, all three service centers for Bose in my area tell me that if they could find the problem with my old one, Bose won't sell them the parts to repair. GRRRRRR.
 

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