Sucker Rod Pump on my water well

   / Sucker Rod Pump on my water well #1  

Jostros

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Spruce Grove, AB
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John Deere 4100
After a century of working, the head on my water well has given up the ghost. The displacement valve down at the bottom some 125 feet deep is OK as it was replaced 10 or so years ago. But the head at the top with the guides and sucker rod attachment and spill channel is all worn out and disintegrated.

But I am not having any success tracking down a replacement for it. It doesn't have any markings on that identify a manufacturer and the model number itself doesn't turn anything up.

The only markings on it are in large letters a "BT" with a triangle symbol underneath and the number 15527 below that. Then over on the water spill out nozzle is the number P895, and that is it on the head of the well. The unit itself is colored green, but that may not have been the original color as it is very old.

It is driven by a red colored unit from "Monarch Machinery" out of Winipeg Canada.

So if anyone can help me track down parts or replacments for this unit it would be very much appreciated.
 
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Greetings and welcome. From the words of it, looks like a form of a windmill pump that you can still buy parts for.

Monarch machinery : 1-800-665-0246

There are still several pump and pumping system companies that supply these kinds of parts. Red Jacket, Flint & Walling come to mind. There may even be some spare parts on eBay.

Can you post a picture of the outfit? That would help a bit to size up the situation...
 
   / Sucker Rod Pump on my water well #4  
BT on a pump is the mark of Beatty Bros of Fergus, Ontario.
Medium/dark green is the original colour.

Pete
 
   / Sucker Rod Pump on my water well
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#5  
Greetings and welcome. From the words of it, looks like a form of a windmill pump that Can you post a picture of the outfit? That would help a bit to size up the situation...

Here are a few pictures of the unit. The green part is the one in need of replacing the most.
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   / Sucker Rod Pump on my water well #6  
Interesting !

This setup looks to be a former windmill pump top hat that is mechanized by a motor powered pump jack (The Monarch piece). I can also see where the pump handle linkage once attached and the spout connection is pretty obvious. Since the critical pieces in play are only the top end of the sucker rod and maybe a checkvalve somewhere down along the drop pipe, I would say that its all easily replaceable by brand new or vintage equivalent stuff. For example:

Pumps & Accessories

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etc.

If you have not pulled up the bottom end with the cylinder, leathers and screen, it would be wise to do this at the time of replacement. You can even buy new replacement wood (ash) or fiberglas sucker rods from a few places. All this stuff is pretty expensive, though, so it might be time to consider sliding a new electric pump down the casing. I think it would be a lot cheaper with better piece of mind for the future. Has your water developed that tangy, oily, metallic taste? Looks like your coffee grounds might be mixed with some iron filings.....
 
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That type of pump was used at a time when there were no viable alternatives. Now the technology has been around for decades to either go with a submersible (preferable) or deep-well jet pump and probably get much more water and flow than the cylinder pump was capable of. My bet is that parts will be very hard to come by for that old system.
 
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Try " Aero Motor Windmills ". They are an operating company in the windmill water pumping business.:D

From the looks of your picture the top packing glands have deteriorated to the point the polish rods are worn. If you take it apart you will find it is very simple. You could get new polish rod and packing glands to fix up the existing pump. You could also get a welder to fabricate a new pump head. Pretty simple and should not cost much. If you do this go with a one polish rod design. If there are shops in the area that service pumping oil wells they could also fix you up.

A different approach would be using wood and Fibreglass with a metal polish rod and packing gland guide.

Aero motors may be able to supply a new pump head.
 
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#9  
We already tried to replace the entire thing with a electric submersible, but the casing is only 2.14 inches so we couldn't get the pump to fit. The next bet was to drill a new well, but even 25 feet away they couldn't hit this pocket of potable water. They got me tons of water (50 gals per minute) but it was harder then nails. This particular well gives close to potable water right out of the ground.

We already replaced the foot valve 2 years back and it has been working fine, now just the topside stuff needs to be fixed up.
 
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How deep is the footvalve on this well?
 

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