So sad

[orezok]

 

[rockinmywaypa]

absolutely terrible that so many people so obsessed with proving climate change that they go around the world setting fires, brazilian rain forest last year, western north american states and Canada a couple years ago. One thing for sure though is that the truth eventually comes out and it is always arsonists.

 

[Thomas]

Indeed!!!

 

[Industrial Toys]

Nature doesn't acknowledge cute and cuddly, human or animal.

 

[CobyRupert]

absolutely terrible that so many people so obsessed with proving climate change that they go around the world setting fires, brazilian rain forest last year, western north american states and Canada a couple years ago. One thing for sure though is that the truth eventually comes out and it is always arsonists.

Seems like there's a lot of people (and 'bots) obsessed with trying to say it's NOT caused by climate change too.

Police contradict claims spread online exaggerating arson's role in Australian bushfires | Australia news | The Guardian

Bots and trolls spread false arson claims in Australian fires 租isinformation campaign | Australia news | The Guardian

"“Looking at the kinds of accounts that post using the #ArsonEmergency hashtag, you see that these are individuals who are hyper-partisan ideologues, behaving in a way that is not reflective of the average Twitter user.
The conspiracy theories going around (including arson as the main cause of the fires) reflect an increased distrust in scientific expertise, skepticism of the media, and rejection of liberal democratic authority. These are all major factors in the global fight against disinformation, and based on my preliminary analysis it appears that Australia has for better or worse entered that battlefield, at least for now.”
"Donald Trump Jr was among those who retweeted misleading figures published by News Corp."

 

[Industrial Toys]

I could be totally wrong. But my take on it. We destroyed the planet. I hate this "Climate change" label. Should be "What We Did to the Planet" or some such ackowledging our misdeeds thing.

People that think the earth is so large that humans can't affect it are fools, and people that think it's their "RIGHT" to do whatever they want to the planet and nature, make me sick.

 

[Tomtint]

This and other man made wildfires are incredibly sad. The wildlife has no idea where to go and try to hide, they have nothing but confusion and fear. Humans for the most part have warnings and notice to evacuate. It’s horrible

 

[Industrial Toys]

I feel the same way and want to put my head in the sand and not think about it. Dying from lack of oxygen is one thing, but being burned and dying slowly is another.

Bugs me terribly that animal fatalities are never mentioned. I couldn't care less about the houses. What about the pets?

 

[CobyRupert]

I could be totally wrong. But my take on it. We destroyed the planet. I hate this "Climate change" label. Should be "What We Did to the Planet" or some such ackowledging our misdeeds thing.

People that think the earth is so large that humans can't affect it are fools, and people that think it's their "RIGHT" to do whatever they want to the planet and nature, make me sick.

I just had a scary "ah-ha" moment regarding that a few weeks ago.
Where I live I can see cement and paper plants spewing pollution into the air 13 miles away. I can see that the pollution cloud often dis-colors the air from Glens Falls NY to Lake George NY -about 8.5 miles of valley visibly filled with pollution.

Then I realize how thin the earth's livable atmosphere is compared to what I'm seeing. Or conversely, just how much is getting polluted compared to so little that is livable.
If I go 2-3 miles UP, I'll probably be really dizzy or a headache from the lack of oxygen. If I go 5 miles up I'd probably die.

 

[Industrial Toys]

Make no mistake about it. I am guilty as sin, and that makes me SAD! Worse yet, that I don't do more to stop my bad behavior! But I am human and as such do stupid things, and yes that is no EXCUSE!

 

[Cat_Driver]

Here's what flames me. States and Countries DO NOTHING the other 364 days a year to curb these fires. It's not rocket science but if they cut checkered board fire breaks across these vulnerable areas when it's NOT fire season then that would limit how much is burned. Funny they have no money to prevent these fires but an endless supply of money and resources when they have to put the fires out.

What would the tree huggers say if you cut a 1/2 mile fire break through some of these areas? They would scream bloody murder yet these same tree huggest don't say a word when the entire forest is lost leaving NOTHING.

These same tree huggers cry about vehicle pollution but never say a word when a forest fire produces more carbon then every vehicle ever built.

 

[bunyip]

A lot of the fires started with lightning then arsonists get their jollies by starting others, firebreaks don't really do a lot as embers travel for miles in the high winds that the fires create.
2 firefighters died when these winds flipped their 10 ton tanker.
At the moment 2 big fires look llike joining, tomoorrow will be bad with the predicted high winds.
We are 300km away from the fires but suffering from the thick smoke and the ash is getting into our water tanks, something that the media does not mention.
We have a lot of expert firefighters who we send to the US to help when needed, conversely you have a lot too and we thank you for sending them to help now, that goes for other countries who are helping too.
If I catch a firebug the law prevents me from burning him at a stake.

 

[Trillium Farm]

That we are going through climate change is true enough! What's ludicrous is that that are people who believe it can be stopped!
We ought to learn how to adapt to it, for stopping it we can't.
In the middle ages, before Greta and social media, there was a little ice age it lasted for about 3 centuries. All one has to do is look at geology and climate through the years.
Archeology finds submersed cities everywhere, so there was a time when the sea/water level was lower etc the earth goes through its cycles, the coastline changes, the sea/water levels change, nothing new to this earth, only maybe new to "us"

 

[Hroller]

absolutely terrible that so many people so obsessed with proving climate change that they go around the world setting fires, brazilian rain forest last year, western north american states and Canada a couple years ago. One thing for sure though is that the truth eventually comes out and it is always arsonists.

That statement is demonstrably inaccurate, it's RARELY people setting fired on purpose (arsonists), it's sometimes people doing so out of ignorance or laziness (throwing cigs out the window or not putting out campfires), Sometimes it accidental (California seems to have issues with power grid started fires lately), it's USUALLY natural.

 

[Diggin It]

I could be totally wrong. But my take on it. We destroyed the planet. I hate this "Climate change" label. Should be "What We Did to the Planet" or some such ackowledging our misdeeds thing.

What have they done to the earth?
What have they done to our fair sister?
Ravaged and plundered and ripped her and bit her
Stuck her with knives in the side of the dawn
And tied her with fences and dragged her down

So when the music's over
When the music's over, yeah
When the music's over
Turn out the lights
Turn out the lights
Turn out the lights

Well the music is your special friend
Dance on fire as it intends
Music is your only friend
Until the end
Until the end
Until the end!

-- Jim Morrison, The Doors; September 1967

 

[Steppenwolfe]

absolutely terrible that so many people so obsessed with proving climate change that they go around the world setting fires, brazilian rain forest last year, western north american states and Canada a couple years ago. One thing for sure though is that the truth eventually comes out and it is always arsonists.

Maybe it's just a holes who don't know anything about climate change. :confused3:

 

[Steppenwolfe]

Here's what flames me. States and Countries DO NOTHING the other 364 days a year to curb these fires. It's not rocket science but if they cut checkered board fire breaks across these vulnerable areas when it's NOT fire season then that would limit how much is burned. Funny they have no money to prevent these fires but an endless supply of money and resources when they have to put the fires out.

What would the tree huggers say if you cut a 1/2 mile fire break through some of these areas? They would scream bloody murder yet these same tree huggest don't say a word when the entire forest is lost leaving NOTHING.

These same tree huggers cry about vehicle pollution but never say a word when a forest fire produces more carbon then every vehicle ever built.

End of tribal rant...

 

[bunyip]

A few have died in their homes because they refused to evacuate when told, the firefighters have made it abundantly clear they will not put their crews at risk trying to save them in impossible conditions, a harsh decision but I think necessary.
Of course the mandatory looters have been caught in some areas, they deserve the same fate as arsonists.
One town has been cut off completely and the Navy have sent in two ships to evacuate them by sea, that is still underway, the town has a population of about 800 and swells to about 3000 over the holidays, a lot of homes have been destroyed as well as business, no water and no food, air drops cannot be made because of the thick smoke and people are just living on the beach until removed by landing craft.
Visibility here is down to about 300m because of the smoke yet idiots still drive at high speed despite limited vision.
This is not the first time we have had bad fires and they seem to come in cycles, no mention of global warming during the last one in 2009.

 

[Industrial Toys]

Terrible when people stay behind and die, but I beleive that should remain a right. And no, they shouldn't expect rescue. Terrible position to find oneself in. How real is the threat? You can't believe Government or Authority!

 

[Jstpssng]

In 1804 the world population was 1 billion people. 123 years later in 1927 it hit 2 billion. It took just 47 years for it to double again... now we are almost at 8 billion and expected to hit that next year.

We can call it climate change, weather, flukes of nature or whatever we want; yet if we are indeed affecting it, our burgeoning population is the root of the problem. I believe that the planet is capable of taking care of itself; we may not like the results however.