Snowmobilers

[Anonymous Poster]

I guess it was bound to happen, I just wasn't thinking about it. I get our property (we don't live there yet) all smoothed out and the snowmobilers love it. I'm not so concerned about them being there as I know I can't prevent everything from happening, but I am concerned about all the trees we planted. They got a couple of them this round. Short of a fence, any ideas for minimizing damage to saplings from snowmobiles (and any other such things)? We've got over a hundred trees planted so it can't be a gold plated solution, if you know what I mean. I also don't want to introduce any liability (neck heighth wires strategically placed).
Trying to enjoy the snow myself,

RobS

 

[Thomas]

RobS1,
Maybe put up some signs where the snowmobilers enter and exit,and contact the local snowmobilers club.

Have a single trail until the trees have grown couple of feet or so.

Thomas..NH /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif

 

[s1120]

How small are them? you could use tomato cages, or get a roll of 5,or6 ft wire fence, and make a cage around each one.

Paul B

 

[DennisY]

RobS,
I don't know about your area but here in Maine the local snowmobile clubs mark and groom the trails as well as taking care of landowner relations. If I had that situation a phone call would result in their putting up signs and marking the area where it is OK to go and instructing them to "STAY ON MARKED TRAIL". The local trails have been going over my land (with permission) for the 20 years that I have been here. If there is a local club contact them.

 

[Thomas]

RobS1,
What kind of trees did you plant?
The reason for asking do to the wildlife,for if they are young spruces I hope the deer don't seek them out,for I went thru that stage /w3tcompact/icons/crazy.gifand now its the moose stage. /w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif

Thomas..NH /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif

 

[scruffy]

Can't say I would want the trespassers on my property! The loss of privacy, solitude, etc is bad enough, but to add the potential liability factor is placing a direct threat to a family's well being. I personally would be for investing in fence, and no trespassing signs. Cheaper than a law-suit.

 

[Thomas]

scruffy,
I can understand why some people post there land,and you have bought out some good points.

There always going to be a few bad apples in every bunch such as campers,hikers,snow travelers,fisherman,hunters etc...that have no respect!!/w3tcompact/icons/mad.gif
......No Trespassing /w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif......
My father owns 485 arces and over the years he and I have had our go arounds with bad apples and still do,but to post the land so nobody can enjoy. /w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif
I will say the only signs he has posted are...Hunting By Permission Only.

Being the main care taker of the land I have no reason to even consider posting the land...for I adventure on others land while hiking,filming,hunting.

We live in somewhat of rural area where people still drive slow on a country dirt road and wave to one another,and I hope it last. /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif

Thomas..NH /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif

 

[gerard]

It's not often NY does something that makes sense and cuts DOWN on lawsuits but I just heard of a law limiting land owners from lawsuits by parties either hunting or snowmobiling on lands of another. I never could understand how someone could sue some poor farmer who has a few hundred acres of land because they were stupid and ran into his barbed wire while snowmobiling on HIS land!!

 

[scruffy]

Thomas, up until 15-20 years ago, I would agree with you. After that, it got a little rediculas in the pacific northwest. Pot growers would not (and still don't) respect anyones private property. They would/will set booby traps around their 'gardens', no matter who's land they have planted it on. I have personally dismantled a few, confiscated drip lines, water lines, etc where they have tapped into a spring/creek on private property, and called C.A.M.P. (campaign against marijauna production) to irradicate plants planted without the owners knowledge (father in law). The father in law was unable to 'patrol' his property efficiently due to physical problems, and I would run an occassional check. Every year for 4 or 5 years, I found a garden.
Used to be, I would trapse through the woods to several old 'ghost town/settlements', but it got to the point it flat wasn't safe. Even State parks land was under siege.
The bad thing, C.A.M.P. Could and would confiscate private property where pot was found growing...particularly if an agreement had not been signed allowing inspection of the land by law enforcement agencies, at their will.
I guess I just grew to the position of isolationism by reason of necessity.
Posting the land, just allowed you to prosecute those who were a pain in the rear. Those of honest intent were still of free will to ask permission, and were rarely turned down.

 

[Thomas]

gerard,
Hard to believe there some out there will use loop holes to make and easy buck./w3tcompact/icons/mad.gif

Maybe the court should look closer at the court case before hearing the case to see if common sence was use./w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif


Thomas..NH /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif