Seatbelt problems during rollovers
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As a matter of fact i had my seatbelt fail on my ck20.went into a slow rollover situation a few weeks ago.i stayed on the tractor by hanging on to the fender grab bar.What prevented the rollover was that my rear blade happen to be off set and the edge dug into solid ground.My dealer tried same model and found that after locking belt it would loosen when he leaned left or right,exactly what would happen in a slow rollover.Kioti is aware of this and so is the ministry of agriculture here in Ontario who are investigating.So far they are awaiting test standards from the seat and seatbelt mfg. in Italy who supplies Kioti.
I hear that the standards may meet criteria.but the question maybe, does this particular system work on slow rollover,or is the testing as stringent as it should be.
saved by the blade not the belt
chach
I hear that the standards may meet criteria.but the question maybe, does this particular system work on slow rollover,or is the testing as stringent as it should be.
saved by the blade not the belt
chach
chach said:As a matter of fact i had my seatbelt fail on my ck20.went into a slow rollover situation a few weeks ago.i stayed on the tractor by hanging on to the fender grab bar.What prevented the rollover was that my rear blade happen to be off set and the edge dug into solid ground.My dealer tried same model and found that after locking belt it would loosen when he leaned left or right,exactly what would happen in a slow rollover.Kioti is aware of this and so is the ministry of agriculture here in Ontario who are investigating.So far they are awaiting test standards from the seat and seatbelt mfg. in Italy who supplies Kioti.
I hear that the standards may meet criteria.but the question maybe, does this particular system work on slow rollover,or is the testing as stringent as it should be.
saved by the blade not the belt
chach
Chach,
You sound like the guy from Ohio this happened to. Are you from there too? If not, I have heard of a very similar incident. You said you thought the standards might have met criteria - but I doubt that. Whether fast or slow rollover, the seatbelt should work. Any criteria it met would have not been to North American standards.
Curious to know if you had the seat belt on too loose maybe, or did you snug it up proper - some guys don't even wear them, I know I don't, but my wife does. Does your husband wear his?
Would anyone care to try their Kioti seatbelt? I wonder if other owners could try and duplicate the test Chach's dealer tried - moving left and right after putting on the seat belt.
MB
MB
I live in Canfield,Ontario.near the big town of Dunnville,near the mouth of the Grand river.
I sung the belt up till it killks and go about my business.This is my 21st tractor but first with seat belt and rops.
my wife wont even get on it until this issue is resolved,me ,i just stay on the flats.
any one with a ck20that has not the buckle of the belt in the middle of the waist for their own peace of mind have them check with their dealer or Kioti
that in fact they work or even better ask for the testing data
saved by the blade
I live in Canfield,Ontario.near the big town of Dunnville,near the mouth of the Grand river.
I sung the belt up till it killks and go about my business.This is my 21st tractor but first with seat belt and rops.
my wife wont even get on it until this issue is resolved,me ,i just stay on the flats.
any one with a ck20that has not the buckle of the belt in the middle of the waist for their own peace of mind have them check with their dealer or Kioti
that in fact they work or even better ask for the testing data
saved by the blade
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wallace said:
If my mind serves me I think you posted a pic of a 65 that you sold that rolled over. It was sitting next to a house and was lying at the bottom of a bank.
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I er, have very solid info that the CK30HST seatbelt worked fine in a rollover...
Mike
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mbtractor said:
Gee, another Kubota dealer lurking the Kioti boards trying to rustle feathers... How convienent
I know my seatbelt works good, everytime I get out to use the backhoe I forget it's on and just about split myself in two. This is the face I make -->
Dmace said:Gee, another Kubota dealer lurking the Kioti boards trying to rustle feathers... How convienent
I know my seatbelt works good, everytime I get out to use the backhoe I forget it's on and just about split myself in two. This is the face I make -->
DMACE
i am curious what year is your tractor and does your belt latch in the side
or in the midddle of your waist?
thanx
chach
Dmace said:Gee, another Kubota dealer lurking the Kioti boards trying to rustle feathers... How convienent
I know my seatbelt works good, everytime I get out to use the backhoe I forget it's on and just about split myself in two. This is the face I make -->
You are mistaken. I am not a Kuboto dealer. I own a tractor, and live in Manitoba, hence MBtractor. I never thought to check the name with any existing websites.
Sorry for the confusion.
MB
Sandlot
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My CK seat belt is the self retracting style that buckles to the left side. I can see that if you are in a slow roll it could play out. It takes quite a fast pull to get it to lock. Of course,for me, because of my girth, that is about an inch!
Sandlot said:My CK seat belt is the self retracting style that buckles to the left side. I can see that if you are in a slow roll it could play out. It takes quite a fast pull to get it to lock. Of course,for me, because of my girth, that is about an inch!
Sandlot,
Yes, that is familiar. Sounds similar to how car seatbelts work (quick pull on the belt and it locks).
I would have thought somebody tested for slow rollovers.
Chach,
If your Ontario ministry is waiting for testing results from the Italian mfg for seats supplied to Kioti ,I would think that Kioti should have them on file in North Carolina. Why don't they supply the results? How long does it take to send the paperwork from Italy to Canada?
mbtractor said:
mb
Kioti should have the test results and certification info right at the head office
you would think but who knows.Something l learn today ,that CSA writes up standards but does not test tractors,it is up to agr. ministry to enforce the standards.The standards bussiness is a whole new ball game to me.You have international std.,country of origin std.,American std.,and Canadian std.,but no one figured out that a tractor could roll going slow and how do you keep operator secure.
how long does it take paper work to get from Italy to Canada you asked,depends whether we pick it or comes by kondola,will be the same no matter which way. I brought this issue up in the begining of June
chach
Dmace
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chach said:
My CK20 is a 2006 model and the seatbelt straps on the side.
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