Riding Trenchers- Tips?

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Mike058

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I'm renting one Thursday and not having run one before, I'm looking for any tips others that have used one might want to share. It should be pretty straight forward. It's all level ground and I need to cut a trench 200' long by 3' deep. I already called over the weekend to have the utilities marked so I should be able to avoid anything of that nature. Thanks
 
   / Riding Trenchers- Tips? #2  
Hi Mike,

I rented a rider a few years ago to trench in my water line, a little over 800 feet of trenching. It was an nice Vermeer unit, with a 4 or 6 way blade for filling in afterwards. Since it was my first time as well, I pulled a string and used paint marks and surveyors flags to mark my line periodically so that I would make a nice straight trench. I put my water line down around 30 inches, which is over-kill in NC, but I will never worry about hitting it if I decide to till up the lawn and re-seed or something. The one I used was Hydrostatic and it was quite easy to use, but the diesel was loud. I had the unit for a weekend, so I took my time and creeped along, took the better part of a day. Since the trenched dirt is piled up on one side of the trench, you may want to concider this in deciding to trench from Point A to B or from Point B to Point A, or it may not matter at all.
Good Luck.

-Vinnie
 
   / Riding Trenchers- Tips? #3  
Just take your time. Drop the stinger down slowly, the machine will want to buck a bit until it is in the ground then just ease forward. Watch the chain. It will show you how well it is digging. Keep the RPM up so that it can dig.

Throw some ditch tape over your first pass. when backfilling Mound your dirt up into a nice pile on the ditch. You can use water to soak the ditch to speed up the compaction of the ditch. Just throw the garden hose on the ditch. Some ditchs like to settle for years.

Have fun and go slow a 200 foot ditch is a small proejct so you ahve rental time. Unless you hit that piece of concrete billy bob buried 20 years ago.
 
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Thanks guys. I just got back from the job and things didn't go too bad. I learned a couple of things today. 1) A ditch witch can't cross the ditch it just dug (at least not at anything less than 90 degrees if that). 2) because of 1, you really should plan on starting at one point and going all the way to the other point. Unfortunately, both ends of my run were in kind of tight places. So I thought I'd be clever and start at both ends and end in the middle. WRONG. Luckily I realized what a horrible mistake I was about to make before I made it. If I had connected the two trenches, the machine would have been stuck. As it was I kind of hacked away at the two trenches in the middle enough to soften up the dirt. I have to go back out with a post hole digger tomorrow to clean up.

Other than that, it went pretty well. I lowered the stinger and let it dig a bit, then moved the machine forward. If it hit a rock, I raised the stinger a bit, went past the rock then lowered it again. That thing can pull up some pretty darn big rocks! That worked well enough until I dug right next to a couple of really large rocks. They bound the stinger so I couldn't get past them so I started a parallel ditch. That was kind of a mistake too. Couldn't really do a nice job of connecting them because of that "machine won't float on air" thing. In retrospect, I should have just raised the stinger and positioned it a couple of inches away from the rock and let it back down.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot about getting the rear tire too close to the trench and feeling the machine sinking because of the weight of the stinger. Not a good feeling. Again, I was lucky enough to stop and reverse direction quick enough to get out.

The other thing I noticed after I'd gone 50 feet, the screw to move the dirt was on the right side. Most, but not all, of the dirt was ending up on that side. I was trenching along a very mild slope and should have planned to drop the spoil on the downhill side so less fell back into the trench. Oh well, maybe next time.
 
   / Riding Trenchers- Tips? #5  
Good to hear that you're moving along out there. Was this for water? 3' deep sounds like a power trench.
 
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Yes, it's for power and after I add 6" of dirt, water. I was out today finishing up. I had to extend the trench to within 2' of the transformer. The trench didn't really need to be 3' deep, the line only needs 24" of cover. But some dirt falls back into the trench and I had to hand dig out some sections that the trencher didn't quite reach so having some extra room down there kept me from absolutely having to pull every last shovelful of dirt out. One last thing I'd tell somebody that's going to use one of these things to cut a trench. If you can't make the run in one continuous line (and it's really a whole lot easier if you do) and have to make the two trenches meet in the middle, use the stinger to cut a "double wide" trench where you'll have to clean it out yourself. Makes working the shovel a lot easier.
 
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Mike058 said:
If you can't make the run in one continuous line (and it's really a whole lot easier if you do) and have to make the two trenches meet in the middle, use the stinger to cut a "double wide" trench where you'll have to clean it out yourself. Makes working the shovel a lot easier.

Unless you pick up a trench shovel. The blade is 4" wide and really works good in a trench after using a trencher.
 
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You know, I couldn't find the darn thing. It's around here somewhere, just saw it the other day. Really could have used it for sure.
 
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Mike058
I have put down 2 3/4 sheets of plywood over trench to drive trencher off the trench when I have to work from both ends
I usually shovel spoils out of the way by hand to get the sheets flat.
Or if I am really thinking before I start 2nd trench I push it out of the way with the back fill blade.
tommu
 

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