Snow Rear blade and snow removal

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bowhunter3030

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What is the procedure to remove snow with a rear blade? There is no spring on the blade, that will give, if you hit something. Will this tear up the driveway? Do you raise it up a little? What is your procedure so nothing gets tore up?
 
   / Rear blade and snow removal #2  
Can't really answer you, bow, as I tore up my driveway a bit last year. However, skid shoes help when combined with a properly adjusted toplink. If your driveway is uneven, the toplink length may have to be varied over the length of the driveway....in this case a hydraulic toplink with some kind of positioning scale would be a help.

One big item is to 'float' the blade angle. Not the fore and aft blade angle, but its angle in the verticle plane (around the longitudinal axis--like an airplane's bank angle). This will allow the blade to follow the various slopes of your drive without one end or the other digging in.

You can do a pretty decent job moving light coverages by swinging the blade around backward and pulling it through the snow convex side first. It won't dig in that way but, if you have skid shoes in place, they may interfere with the blade clearing itself. Back blading is a variation of this. With the blade positioned normally, you back into the snow you want to clear, convex side first. I've use backblading alot to clean up the edges and catch small areas I've missed.

My blade allows me to offset it a bit left and right. It helps to get one end of the blade out beyond a rear tire. However, if I go for the full offset I have to get rid of the 'bank angle' float or the blade will get all wrapped up in it self, dig in, and lift one end off the pavement.

To date I've used skid shoes, back blading, and bank angle floating. Haven't yet tried the hydraulic toplink or extensive plowing convex side forward without skid shoes.

Gravel driveways are the toughest.
FWIW
Bob
 
   / Rear blade and snow removal #3  
IMO, using a rear blade is a pain, at best. It can be done, and many do it, and many get good at it and apparently enjoy doing snow removal with the rear blade. I used to years ago, and as long as one doesn't get going too fast, isn't too fussy about tearing things up (either the lawn or the 3pt arms or the rear blade), and can tolerate the crink in the neck and back - it can be done.
I am glad to not be doing it that way anymore. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
But you are right about what to expect.
 
   / Rear blade and snow removal #4  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( isn't too fussy about tearing things up (either the lawn or the 3pt arms or the rear blade), )</font>

what do you mean by tearing up the 3pt arms and rear blade /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
   / Rear blade and snow removal #5  
(and can tolerate the crink in the neck and back - it can be done. )

I "assume" you mean driving backwards using the rear blade. I used my rear blade on my l275 to clear 7-800 feet of paved and gravel driveways for 6 years. After about 30 seconds I realized that going backwards wouldn't work for me. I flipped the blade around (and never looked back /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif). If the snow was deep 12" plus I would just set the bucket to take half the snow and then the blade to clean up. If there was a real lot of snow I would do a quick push off to the sides with the bucket first. Just the other day I was looking at the rear blade and thinking about selling it as it has been a couple of years since I used it. It's just so much easier with my K3500 with the 9'2 Boss v blade /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif.
 
   / Rear blade and snow removal #6  
We've read numerous posts on TBN about bent 3pt arms and mangled rear blades, because the arms are not designed to 'push' (more designed to pull). Also the rear blades are not designed with spring-loaded folding blades. When they dig in at the tip, something has to give, break, or come to a quick stop. One will find the 'weakest' link in the system.
Please don't read me wrong, as rear blades can be used to remove snow. Just good to know what can happen and often does happen. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 
   / Rear blade and snow removal #7  
Bowhunter, if you were like we were here in S IN, we got around 30" of snow right before Christmas. I have a super heavy duty 8' rear blade (weighs around 1200 pounds) and I cleared one heck of a lot of snow. Just going over to my parent's house and my grand parent's house I ended up pocketing several hundred dollars. I never once charged; that was only from people who insisted on paying me for doing the work that varied from pulling people out of drifts, ditches, clearing driveways, to clearing sub divisions.

One of the key items was my top and tilt system. I could adjust the rear blade quickly and easily from inside my toasty warm cab while listening to my favorite MP3's. For gravel driveways, I shortened the top link; thus not digging in any at all. I never once pulled any gravel out of those driveways. On asphalt driveways, I lengthened the top link to make the blade almost vertical. That way I got down to the pavement, but didn't scratch it. For roads and sub divisions, I lengthened the top link even more and let 'er eat. That made for clean pavement.

Even with the drifted over roads that had from 3' to 5' of snow on the roads, I could clear much in two passes. I'd lower the front bucket to within a foot or so off of the road and push quite a bit out in front of me. The 8' blade was angled to then clear the remaining snow off to the outside of the road. I'd turn around and do the same thing in the opposite direction and I would have about a 10' path.

My L5030HSTC was an absolute beast at moving heavy snow; even with the R4 tires (not filled). I never had any trouble at all. The most time consuming part was clearing driveways that I'd bury in making my passes down the roads. I was making those passes at around 12 mph, and I had the snow flying off the road for a pretty good distance.

All in all, it really wasn't that bad. I made quite a few good friends when I told them "no charge". One older woman simply started weeping and insisted that I take an apple pie. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif Several of the places that have gravel driveways asked for my number to call me next year to hire me to clear their driveways. Apparently I was the only person with a top and tilt that could clear the snow without removing their gravel. The truth be known, I sort of hope we have a good snow or two this next year as well. Not really for the money, but for the true spirit of helping and giving that I got for having the ability to really help those in need. It may sound corny, but it really did give me a great feeling each evening I came home from helping people. I was out nearly 14 hours a day for about 3 days. And, I even got loads of Christmas cards from people I didn't even remember. It was pretty cool; they even included pictures of their kids and included stories of how my clearing their driveway and street allowed them to get some important thing done that they would not have been able to do without my help.

Oh well, I'm off the subject, but with a good heavy blade, a FEL, and a top and tilt system, you can move a massive amount of snow. With a little practice, you will be able to amaze those with gravel drives as well. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif Good luck!!
 

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