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<font color=red>The following was originally posted by <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.tractorbynet.com/cgi-bin/compact/showprofile.pl?Cat=&User=glennmac&Number=193779&Board=buykubota&what=showthreaded&page=&view=&sb=&o=&vc=1>glennmac</A> and is reformatted here at Glenn's request:</font color=red>
Ok, I made copies of the specs pages from the new "Grand L30" brochure.
There are 6 models, all having DT, GST and HST, with the following horsepowers and displacements (ghp/nhp/ptohp-hst/cu.in.):
L3130 (32.1/31.0/24.0/91.5),
L3430 (35.1/33.6/27.0/100.5),
L3830 (39.0/37.4/30.5/111.5),
L4330 (43.2/41.0/34.5/134.1@2600),
L4630 (47.2/44.7/39.5/134.1@2700),
L5030 (52.2/50.0/42.5/148.6)
The implement pump/ps pump = total flows are
8.3/4.9=13.2 for the first 3 models;
9.4/4.7=14.1 for the L4330;
9.8/4.9=14.7 for the L4630 and L5030.
The 3ph lift capacity at 24" behind the 3ph are
2650 lbs. for the L3130 and L3430;
2760 for the next 3 models;
2980 for the L5030
There are 4 frame sizes: the length (w/o 3ph)/width (@min. tread) are
114.8/59.8 for the L3130-3430;
117.5/66.5 for the L3830;
121.3/66.5 for the L4330-4630;
126.2/ 67.3 for the L5030
HST weights are 3305, 3305,3340, 3515, 3515, and 3745
There are 3 loaders available. No one will buy the first one. It is the LA 513.
The LA 513 goes only on the L3130 and L3430, and has pivotpin/bucket center/breakout (500mm forward)/lift height capacities of 1345 lb./1124 lb./2160 lb./96.5 in.
The LA723 goes on the L31-34-3830's with capacities of 1870/1587/2605/102.4 in.
The LA 853 goes on the L43-46-5030's with capacities of 2374/1874/3125/113.6 in.
The 2 good loaders both dump and rollback to 45 degrees and 40 degrees.
There are 2 backhoes. One is the good, old 7.5' 4690
3ph-attach hoe.
The new hoe is the BH90, a 9' hoe that can go on all 6 models and that has a bucket cylinder force of 3871 and a dipperstick cylinder force of 2593. It is not a 3ph-attach, but I'm not sure what exactly the mount system is
Optional cabs on all models (don't know if they are compatible with hoes, but dealer guessed not).
<font color=red>[cabs are not available on the 3130 or the 3830 - <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.tractorbynet.com/cgi-bin/compact/showprofile.pl?Cat=&User=BOTAMAN&Number=193941&Board=buykubota&what=showflat&page=&view=&sb=&o=&fpart=1&vc=1>BOTAMAN</A>]</font color=red>
Mid-pto is optional on all 6 models.
A new parallel linkage 72" mid-mower can go on the first 3 models but not on the largest 3 models (don't know why not).
3 different buckets (square, round, material) with new edge attachment options.
Optional bobcat quick-attach for buckets.
Optional 1, 2, or 3 extra valves.
Optional TnT.
Hood opens like car.
Also a maintenance access panel under deck.
Lot more room on deck.
Piston seat with arms and recline. Waterproof pocket on back of seat for manuals, etc.
Cupholder.
Fancy electronic dash, like luxury car computer dash.
Brakes still on right (incorrect) side, but can brake steer with new hand throttle/cruise control.
Heavier front axles on all models for the increased loader capacities.
Extending link ends on 3ph arms (useless if you use Freedom Hitches).
In my opinion the L3130 is going to be one hot tamale. The current 3010 is very popular even though it's loader is absolutely wimpy (not much stronger than the 2910's).
Also good news: base price of L3130 (w/o mid pto) is about $800 less than the current 3010 (which has standard mid pto).
There is a $1400 factory discount on all current Grand L's to clear them out.
Also:
The L31-34-3830's all have 3 cylinder engines.
The L43-46-5030's all have 4 cylinder engines.
The 7.5' 4690 backhoe has a pto pump (as it always has).
The new BH90 backhoe plumbs into the tractor hydraulics.
There is a new 2 cylinder BX1500.
There is a new B7800, which is the size of a B27-2910 but is lower priced.
The B7800 is to the B2710 as the B7500 is to the B2410 (it was explained to me). Didn't see literature on the BX1500 or the B7800.
My statement in another thread that the literature contains comparison charts to JD, NH and 3rd party attachments is both not true and true. The customer brochures do not contain the comparison charts.
The "secret" dealer brochure does contain the comparison charts. Dealers may let you see it since Kubota comes out looking very good.
More: The L30's have greater capacity fuel tanks by about 1 1/2 gallons than the current Grand L's.
What the new loaders mean: You can now get a loader on the 3130 that is more powerful than the loader on the current 3710/4310.
Also, you get a loader on the 4330, 4630 and 5030 that is very slightly less powerful than the loader on the current 4610.
Ok, I made copies of the specs pages from the new "Grand L30" brochure.
There are 6 models, all having DT, GST and HST, with the following horsepowers and displacements (ghp/nhp/ptohp-hst/cu.in.):
L3130 (32.1/31.0/24.0/91.5),
L3430 (35.1/33.6/27.0/100.5),
L3830 (39.0/37.4/30.5/111.5),
L4330 (43.2/41.0/34.5/134.1@2600),
L4630 (47.2/44.7/39.5/134.1@2700),
L5030 (52.2/50.0/42.5/148.6)
The implement pump/ps pump = total flows are
8.3/4.9=13.2 for the first 3 models;
9.4/4.7=14.1 for the L4330;
9.8/4.9=14.7 for the L4630 and L5030.
The 3ph lift capacity at 24" behind the 3ph are
2650 lbs. for the L3130 and L3430;
2760 for the next 3 models;
2980 for the L5030
There are 4 frame sizes: the length (w/o 3ph)/width (@min. tread) are
114.8/59.8 for the L3130-3430;
117.5/66.5 for the L3830;
121.3/66.5 for the L4330-4630;
126.2/ 67.3 for the L5030
HST weights are 3305, 3305,3340, 3515, 3515, and 3745
There are 3 loaders available. No one will buy the first one. It is the LA 513.
The LA 513 goes only on the L3130 and L3430, and has pivotpin/bucket center/breakout (500mm forward)/lift height capacities of 1345 lb./1124 lb./2160 lb./96.5 in.
The LA723 goes on the L31-34-3830's with capacities of 1870/1587/2605/102.4 in.
The LA 853 goes on the L43-46-5030's with capacities of 2374/1874/3125/113.6 in.
The 2 good loaders both dump and rollback to 45 degrees and 40 degrees.
There are 2 backhoes. One is the good, old 7.5' 4690
3ph-attach hoe.
The new hoe is the BH90, a 9' hoe that can go on all 6 models and that has a bucket cylinder force of 3871 and a dipperstick cylinder force of 2593. It is not a 3ph-attach, but I'm not sure what exactly the mount system is
Optional cabs on all models (don't know if they are compatible with hoes, but dealer guessed not).
<font color=red>[cabs are not available on the 3130 or the 3830 - <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.tractorbynet.com/cgi-bin/compact/showprofile.pl?Cat=&User=BOTAMAN&Number=193941&Board=buykubota&what=showflat&page=&view=&sb=&o=&fpart=1&vc=1>BOTAMAN</A>]</font color=red>
Mid-pto is optional on all 6 models.
A new parallel linkage 72" mid-mower can go on the first 3 models but not on the largest 3 models (don't know why not).
3 different buckets (square, round, material) with new edge attachment options.
Optional bobcat quick-attach for buckets.
Optional 1, 2, or 3 extra valves.
Optional TnT.
Hood opens like car.
Also a maintenance access panel under deck.
Lot more room on deck.
Piston seat with arms and recline. Waterproof pocket on back of seat for manuals, etc.
Cupholder.
Fancy electronic dash, like luxury car computer dash.
Brakes still on right (incorrect) side, but can brake steer with new hand throttle/cruise control.
Heavier front axles on all models for the increased loader capacities.
Extending link ends on 3ph arms (useless if you use Freedom Hitches).
In my opinion the L3130 is going to be one hot tamale. The current 3010 is very popular even though it's loader is absolutely wimpy (not much stronger than the 2910's).
Also good news: base price of L3130 (w/o mid pto) is about $800 less than the current 3010 (which has standard mid pto).
There is a $1400 factory discount on all current Grand L's to clear them out.
Also:
The L31-34-3830's all have 3 cylinder engines.
The L43-46-5030's all have 4 cylinder engines.
The 7.5' 4690 backhoe has a pto pump (as it always has).
The new BH90 backhoe plumbs into the tractor hydraulics.
There is a new 2 cylinder BX1500.
There is a new B7800, which is the size of a B27-2910 but is lower priced.
The B7800 is to the B2710 as the B7500 is to the B2410 (it was explained to me). Didn't see literature on the BX1500 or the B7800.
My statement in another thread that the literature contains comparison charts to JD, NH and 3rd party attachments is both not true and true. The customer brochures do not contain the comparison charts.
The "secret" dealer brochure does contain the comparison charts. Dealers may let you see it since Kubota comes out looking very good.
More: The L30's have greater capacity fuel tanks by about 1 1/2 gallons than the current Grand L's.
What the new loaders mean: You can now get a loader on the 3130 that is more powerful than the loader on the current 3710/4310.
Also, you get a loader on the 4330, 4630 and 5030 that is very slightly less powerful than the loader on the current 4610.
