RAM 5500 Pickup

powerstroke444e · Mar 3, 2012

I have had 3 rams 2 diesels for a 760,000 miles on them with all going over 150,000 with normal problems. I have had more fords than I can count and all did well. I have been looking a new but just don't like the price vs fuel consumption and new truck problems. But like the new Fords and MPG's I have been seeing with them. But if this new 5500 was under 60K I would be willing to put it my shed.

Guess I will have to wait till a few show up used.

And I won't have a GM in my shed but that's my choice I am sure they are good trucks maybe even better than Ford or Dodge and I will never bash anyone for spending there money anyway they want.

Diamondpilot · Mar 3, 2012

tcartwri said:
These are not beefed up pickups, they are full 5 series trucks with big truck hardware.. The F550 scales at 7200lbs empty.

7,200#???? My 06 F-350 SRW 4x4 Powerstroke weighs 7,600# Heck, my 07 Nissan Titan is almost 6,000#, actually 5,880#.

A F-350 Dually is right at 8,000#.

Chris

tcartwri · Mar 3, 2012

Diamondpilot said:
7,200#???? My 06 F-350 SRW 4x4 Powerstroke weighs 7,600# Heck, my 07 Nissan Titan is almost 6,000#, actually 5,880#.

A F-350 Dually is right at 8,000#.

Chris

You must have happy scales.

Crew Cab F550, 4x2, Aluminum deck, no fuel = 7200 lbs.

There's no way your dually F350 weighs 8000 lbs. Even full of fuel.

farmboy12 · Mar 3, 2012

My neighbors 04 F550 regular cab 4x4 dump with 6ft sides weighs 11,500 with me and my dad in it, plus 1/2-3/4 tank of fuel and some misc tools and such.

My moms 2011 CCSB 4x4 2500 Ram CTD weighs just under 7k.

Kyle

77bronco · Mar 3, 2012

The 06 F-450 4x4 CC with a 9 ft steel flatbed that I just sold weighed 9200 with me and 3/4 tank of fuel. The 01 F-350 4x4 reg cab I had weighed 6200 by itself. I find it very had to believe an F-550 with any kind of bed weighs 7200.

The Ford website shows that a F-550 Reg Cab 4x2 w/168" wb has a max payload of 12692 lbs with a 19500 GVW, that shows that they figure a minimum weight of 6808 for the truck. The crew cab numbers show a weight of 7220 w/176" wb. Doesn't say whether that is the stripped chassis or if it accounts for a body of some type.

As for ride, you don't normally buy trucks of this size and expect a Cadillac ride. Ride quality and cargo capacity are almost mutually exclusive, even with air suspension the ride can be harsh with an unloaded truck.

mjncad · Mar 4, 2012

OK, is that a 10' bed? Or is that extra section between the cab and bed a fuel tank?

farmboy12 · Mar 4, 2012

mjncad said:
OK, is that a 10' bed? Or is that extra section between the cab and bed a fuel tank?

If I remember correctly, the bed already is 9' or 10'. That extra space you see is another fuel tank.

Kyle

Diamondpilot · Mar 4, 2012

tcartwri said:
You must have happy scales.

Crew Cab F550, 4x2, Aluminum deck, no fuel = 7200 lbs.

There's no way your dually F350 weighs 8000 lbs. Even full of fuel.

I have been across many scales. My 04 F250 4x4 diesel was 7,500# & my 05 3500 srw 4x4 crew cab Dmax was 7,200#.

Your scales are the ones that are favorable.

Chris

Diamondpilot · Mar 4, 2012

77bronco said:
The 06 F-450 4x4 CC with a 9 ft steel flatbed that I just sold weighed 9200 with me and 3/4 tank of fuel. The 01 F-350 4x4 reg cab I had weighed 6200 by itself. I find it very had to believe an F-550 with any kind of bed weighs 7200.

The Ford website shows that a F-550 Reg Cab 4x2 w/168" wb has a max payload of 12692 lbs with a 19500 GVW, that shows that they figure a minimum weight of 6808 for the truck. The crew cab numbers show a weight of 7220 w/176" wb. Doesn't say whether that is the stripped chassis or if it accounts for a body of some type.

As for ride, you don't normally buy trucks of this size and expect a Cadillac ride. Ride quality and cargo capacity are almost mutually exclusive, even with air suspension the ride can be harsh with an unloaded truck.

I agree. They always give the base engine, lowest trim, ect. Makes the numbers look good.

I weigh all my trucks with me and 3/4 tank. This way I have a good accurate weight. By the way I weigh them multiple times on 3 different scales and all are within 60# so I know they are accurate.

Chris

tcartwri · Mar 4, 2012

77bronco said:
The 06 F-450 4x4 CC with a 9 ft steel flatbed that I just sold weighed 9200 with me and 3/4 tank of fuel. The 01 F-350 4x4 reg cab I had weighed 6200 by itself. I find it very had to believe an F-550 with any kind of bed weighs 7200.

3/4 of a tank is roughly 350lbs. 4x4 drivetrain adds about 800 lbs, steel deck is probably 2~300 lbs more than aluminum. You weigh....

In any event I have the scale ticket at the office. This is for a 2003 7.3 F550 XLT.

Specs directly from ford for 2012.. see page 55.

Chassis Cab Specs

tcartwri · Mar 4, 2012

This is the truck in question.

Flyweight F550....

frischtr · Mar 4, 2012

tcartwri said:
3/4 of a tank is roughly 350lbs. 4x4 drivetrain adds about 800 lbs, steel deck is probably 2~300 lbs more than aluminum. You weigh....

In any event I have the scale ticket at the office. This is for a 2003 7.3 F550 XLT.

Specs directly from ford for 2012.. see page 55.

Chassis Cab Specs

BTW, the 7.3l is much lighter than any of the newer ford diesels, 6.0 and up. A couple hundred more there for the newer trucks.

Diamondpilot · Mar 4, 2012

tcartwri said:
3/4 of a tank is roughly 350lbs. 4x4 drivetrain adds about 800 lbs, steel deck is probably 2~300 lbs more than aluminum. You weigh....

In any event I have the scale ticket at the office. This is for a 2003 7.3 F550 XLT.

Specs directly from ford for 2012.. see page 55.

Chassis Cab Specs

Yep, that is about right. They list my truck as a Cab and Chassis, no bed base trim, at 7,139#. I said my truck weighed 7,600#, 2006 F-350 SRW 4x4 FX4 Lariat.

So yes, my truck is 7,600# just like I said. Thanks

And the 4x4 option is closer to 400#, not 800# Look at the buyers guide you supplied.

Chris

scoutcub · Mar 4, 2012

Nice lookin rig. Kinda looks like a 05/06 Ford from the side/front. They finally got the design right. :thumbsup::laughing:

I like the fact that it has the large capacity fuel tank, and increased pull weight, and at still a decent MPG versus the higher class rigs. Might've found a "niche".
Wonder how much.......$$$

CompactTractorFan · Mar 4, 2012

scoutcub said:
Wonder how much.......$$$

a lot...

scrappy isb67 · Mar 4, 2012

tcartwri said:
You must have happy scales.

Crew Cab F550, 4x2, Aluminum deck, no fuel = 7200 lbs.

There's no way your dually F350 weighs 8000 lbs. Even full of fuel.

My 3/4 ton QCSB 4x4 Dodge Cummins weighs 8000# fully fueled(~75gal). and a 1 ton especially a dually will weigh more. That and the fords are marginally heavier than a similarly equipped Dodge, so there are all kinds of ways that a 1t CC 4wd dually weighs 7600 empty.

tlbuser · Mar 5, 2012

foreman Etexas said:
I seen the?My bad! Guess it was one of the smart question/answers I didnt catch:laughing: I like the Ford 450/550,just scared of the powerstroke.I would like to have A 4x4 crew/cab ford 450 with chevy's interior and a cummins.I have 8500 miles on mine View attachment 254066 and just got it out for a minor fix(some kinda heater relay),none are like they use to be anymore.

I guess im just cheap cause I didnt wonna spend 9,000 more,for the Ford with same options..

No sweat. Some of us just haven't realized Ford is just another 4 letter word. Dodge, Chevy and truck are all 5 letter words

That's a nice looking truck, but don't you guys ever get them dirty?

dodge man · Mar 5, 2012

brewdog said:
Very few people I know that bought a RAM truck has ever bought second one. The Air Conditioning is always marginal, Transmission issues everywhere, Front steering wonders on the road. The cummins diesel is about the only good thing there is to talk about. Trouble is you can't buy just the engine. They look cool, I'll give them that, but that's where it stops.
If Ford signed a deal with Cummins, it's all over for the RAM trucks. Just my opinion.

I hope your joking? Ram owners often tend to be a pretty faithfull crowd. I have some experience driving a lot of different brand trucks for my job. If I were to take step back and give on honest observation, I would say they are all pretty equal. We have a 2011 Ford at work, and to be honest I like it the least of any we have had for a while. Its a good truck and drives fine, I just don't like the heater and radio controls.

As far the the Ram Long Hauler. I of course think its very cool, but way beyond what I need a truck for.

Diamondpilot · Mar 5, 2012

dodge man said:
I hope your joking? Ram owners often tend to be a pretty faithfull crowd. I have some experience driving a lot of different brand trucks for my job. If I were to take step back and give on honest observation, I would say they are all pretty equal. We have a 2011 Ford at work, and to be honest I like it the least of any we have had for a while. Its a good truck and drives fine, I just don't like the heater and radio controls.

As far the the Ram Long Hauler. I of course think its very cool, but way beyond what I need a truck for.

Yep, they all have a built in loyal crowd. I personally have had every brand and like the Ford lineup the best. You like the Dodges and someone else likes the GM's. Just the way it is. This argument will go on forever.

By the way my rental car for the evening in Atlanta is a 2012 Hemi Challenger. Love the dash and interior. It looks sharp in Silver with black leather and that faux metal dash.

Chris