Raising Chickens

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RichZ

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I am about to start raising chickens for eggs to sell. I'm going to start with two dozen chickens. I'm getting a 10 X 10 shed to convert into a hen house. I want to let the chickens range on my property (I have 10 acres), because I've read it's healthier for them than keeping them confined, and its just plain cool having chickens running around your property. My main question is, is there any way to keep foxes, racoons, etc. from picking them off (Off course, short of shooting the predators). I intend to close the chickens in the hen house at night, and let them out in the morning. I figure that will at least protect them from nocturnal predators. Any other suggestions on keeping chickens will be greatly appreciated! I know there are some poultry farmers out there. Thanks for any advise!!
 
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RichZ,

Congratulations on your chicken venture. I have raised chickens "on the side" since I was a teenager. You'll learn a lot in a short time.

Chickens do not range too far from the hen house, so 10 acres is more than sufficient for two dozen chickens! Actually, they probably won't go more than a fifty or a hundred yards away from the coop.

Natural predators are not much of a problem for free ranging chickens during daylight hours. Dogs could be though. I've lost quite a few at night, however, to all kinds of critters, including hawks and skunks.

To get 24 hens you will likely have to buy about 40 or 50 general run chicks, since it is almost impossible to tell the sex of chickens at birth. I never figured out how to anyway. Even when I order chicks as females, they seem split half and half. Once the combs appear, you can separate out the hens.

When the hens start laying, letting them run the range will be a problem, because they will lay their eggs all over the place. They don't take orders or instructions of when and where to lay very well. We'd find eggs just about everywhere, in every nook and cranny in the barn, along the outside irrigation channels of the fields, just everywhere. Of course the hens are purposefully trying to put their eggs in a safe place, so you can't always find the eggs at all. Sometimes we come across eggs that had been laid months before.

As to making a commercial go of selling eggs, I am not too sure. Two dozen hens will lay a lot more than probably just your own family will be able to eat. After you give the surplus eggs away to all your friends and neighbors, there isn't much to do with eggs.

There is a market for organic eggs. You might locate the local farmer's market, or connect with a local restaurant that is interested in local range fed organic chickens. Or a local health food store. You can command premium prices from these kinds of vendors. I'd say sell them on the Internet, but eggs are the worst item to ship there is. While the output of 24 hens is more than you'll personally use, it will not supply a large enough quantity in commercial terms. A couple of dozen eggs a day won't make you rich (unless they lay gold eggs, of course).

Be aware that chickens are really, really "dirty." They crap all over the place and will make a mess of your barn, deck, yard and anywhere else in a big hurry. But that manure they drop in the hen house will be about the best fertilizer you can find. Just make sure you let it "cool" for a couple of months, before you apply it to any garden crops.

Chickens will also attack each other rather visciously, especially when in the coop.

All that said, I personally love to have laying hens around, plus a rooster or two. To me a farm ain't a farm without a few chickens. Chickens are very easy to raise. My personal favorite is Rhode Island Reds. Range fed Reds at about 5 weeks are about as meaty and juicy as a turkey. And they lay those "natural" looking brown eggs!

I am sure just about everybody on this forum has some advice about raising chickens.

Good luck!

BobT.
A Indiana Boy
 
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Rich,
We raise chickens and let them range during the day.They don't venture far from the coop and they're all in at night.We have 14 hens and 1 rooster. We have enough eggs for about 3 families.Too many roosters will result in fighting and ragged looking hens. If you have a nice lawn and want to keep it that way you probably don't want to let the chickens range. The plus to letting them range is the decline of bugs. They eat quite a bit and we noticed the difference.Have fun
Jay
 
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Re: Raising Chickens / chicken heaven

Hi Rich /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif ,

With 10 acres, you probably have enough room to use an idea I saw somewhere awhile back (Mother Earth news?).
Wire cage with no bottom, and wheels. Roll your cage/chickens to a new "pasture" every day. They're protected, and have access to new "range" everytime you move them, ...easy to do, with a lightweight cage made of pvc pipe and chickenwire. "Focused" bug-eating, ...you pick the spot /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif

Sunshine, fresh air, new-scenery, insect/greens-feast, security, and water (in a container fastened inside the cage), ...CHICKEN HEAVEN /w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif !!

HTH. Larry
 
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Re: Raising Chickens / chicken heaven

Sounds like a great idea! A motor home for chickens
Jay
 
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One comment on how to keep critters from getting your hens, is a trick I have used for years. Leave a radio on at night and the critters will stay far away from your hens. I'm here in Fl and bobcats are all over. Haven't lost a hen yet, only to a extra large red tailed hawk grabbing a small bantam. My $.02
 
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Re: Raising Chickens / chicken heaven

They're called chicken tractors and we've used them for years. The best resource is a book called "Chicken Tractor" by Andy Lee & Pat Foreman, though the concept is pretty much self-explanatory. We generally use them either for meat birds, or for layers early in their lives when they are small and most vulnerable to predators.

Sometimes we move them like Larry suggested, allowing them to graze on grass and reducing our mowing time. Most often, however, we leave them in one place (wherever we decide to expand the veggie garden). Let them eat everything down to bare ground, then add straw. They'll scratch and peck and poop all over the straw. Every couple of days add more straw for them to scratch and peck and poop in. Move the tractor when the mass is about six inches thick. Cover it with a tarp and let it cook, turning occasionally. The poop really gets that straw to decompose! The following year you'll be able to till the organic mix into the soil and plant your new garden. Few things are better than chicken sh*t for fertilizer.

Anyway, once the layers are big enough to take care of themselves, we move them into the insulated coop with antique windows overlooking the Worchester Range. Keep them confined at first, till the get the idea the coop is home. Then let them out in the daylight hours. You might have trouble getting them back inside at first -- they'll want to roost in the trees -- but placing a light inside in late afternoon seems to bring my birds back in short order. Some hens will want to lay outside. Not sure how to correct that. We were lucky in that one of our dogs likes eggs so much he took to licking the butts of hens getting ready to lay. The birds were so outraged they took refuge in the henhouse and have been laying in there ever since. /w3tcompact/icons/blush.gif

If you have any questions, feel free to email me. Or check the chicken section of my Web page.

Pete

www.GatewayToVermont.com
 
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Re: Raising Chickens / chicken heaven

pete, I just fell out of my chair laughing!!
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licking the butt of the hen getting ready to lay

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When I was a kid, an egg sucking dog soon died of lead poisoning.

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jim
 
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Re: Raising Chickens / chicken heaven

Jim -- The funny thing is (aside from the sight of a 108# golden retriever crawling up to the butt of a chicken with his tongue extended) that Tetley never ate the eggs. He just carried them around for hours till someone noticed and took it away from him. /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif Regardless, the hens didn't care for it.

Pete

www.GatewayToVermont.com
 
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Re: Raising Chickens / chicken heaven

I'm going to get a little off-subject here, but eggs and critters brought back an old memory. I had a cousin who had a de-scented skunk. He would place the skunk in a area of the yard with thick turf and give him an egg. The skunk's mouth was too small to break the egg, so he would center the egg through his back legs, like you'd center a football. The turf would keep the egg from breaking when it landed, so he would go get it and try again, and again, .......
 

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